Hi Mick

And welcome... my advice is to start reading every post in this forum and that will give you a jump start on most folks..but to me it sounds like you folks are doing everything right already... just stockpile what you can't grow, and read, read , read.. there is more bad information on the net then good I think, but there is good info in here.. some may go of the deep end ( :wave but you can't help but be better off for spending time here..

 

And welcome... my advice is to start reading every post in this forum and that will give you a jump start on most folks..but to me it sounds like you folks are doing everything right already... just stockpile what you can't grow, and read, read , read.. there is more bad information on the net then good I think, but there is good info in here.. some may go of the deep end ( :wave but you can't help but be better off for spending time here..

i'm glad i found this site and have realy enjoyed reading all the different information.a lot of good information i might add.

 

i'm glad i found this site and have realy enjoyed reading all the different information.a lot of good information i might add.

Well there ya go!! keep reading and ask all the questions you want..somebody will have the answer...or at least "AN" answer..lol..

Again, welcome and enjoy!

 

Hi, welcome to the forum! Glad to have you with us. Sounds like you have a lot going for you, with your jobs, garden and all.

What sort of things do you notice changing for the worse?

Those are the kind of things to keep in mind when you make decisions about prepping.

 

Hi Mick and welcome.
To address your original question, I believe it comes down to a few things.
1. Unlike you and yours, many, if not most have lost the skills to do for themselves. This makes them more and more dependent on the "Goobermint".
2. Uncle Sugar is bankrupt and the money and "Link card", (used to be food stamps), will sooner or later stop flowing. When that does happen, (not if, but when), there WILL be civil unrest.
3. The weather world-wide has caused a reduction in harvests... not only in the northern/western hemisphere but world-wide, (rice harvest in the far east is down drastically). That is, for the most part, one of the main driving forces behind the radical increase in food prices.
4. The fiat money system is collapsing world-wide and nation-states, (China, U.S. and others), are becoming protectionist regarding their currencies. People are starting to wake up to the fact that their "money" is back by, and therefore worth nothing. Loss of confidence in the fiat currency is historically what has been one of the last stages in societal collapse.
5. Even the "sheeple" are starting to wake up some. Costco and Walmart now are selling "long-term food storage" packages. The drive-by media is starting to run stories preparing the populace for when "evil things this way come".

Being on this site, (and other like-minded venues) and having a "prepper" mindset puts you ahead of 99% of the rest of the population. Looks like you have a great start. Just remember that preparedness is a lot like eating an elephant; if you try to swallow it whole, you will choke. The only way to eat an elephant is one small bit at a time... over time.

Again, welcome to the community, (or as the signature of a friend of mine says on another forum; "Come over to the dark side... we have cookies!). :2thumb::2thumb::welcome:

 

Hi Mick and welcome.
To address your original question, I believe it comes down to a few things.
1. Unlike you and yours, many, if not most have lost the skills to do for themselves. This makes them more and more dependent on the "Goobermint".
2. Uncle Sugar is bankrupt and the money and "Link card", (used to be food stamps), will sooner or later stop flowing. When that does happen, (not if, but when), there WILL be civil unrest.
3. The weather world-wide has caused a reduction in harvests... not only in the northern/western hemisphere but world-wide, (rice harvest in the far east is down drastically). That is, for the most part, one of the main driving forces behind the radical increase in food prices.
4. The fiat money system is collapsing world-wide and nation-states, (China, U.S. and others), are becoming protectionist regarding their currencies. People are starting to wake up to the fact that their "money" is back by, and therefore worth nothing. Loss of confidence in the fiat currency is historically what has been one of the last stages in societal collapse.
5. Even the "sheeple" are starting to wake up some. Costco and Walmart now are selling "long-term food storage" packages. The drive-by media is starting to run stories preparing the populace for when "evil things this way come".

Being on this site, (and other like-minded venues) and having a "prepper" mindset puts you ahead of 99% of the rest of the population. Looks like you have a great start. Just remember that preparedness is a lot like eating an elephant; if you try to swallow it whole, you will choke. The only way to eat an elephant is one small bit at a time... over time.

Again, welcome to the community, (or as the signature of a friend of mine says on another forum; "Come over to the dark side... we have cookies!). :2thumb::2thumb::welcome:

great post--thats the type of things we have noticed.after reading a lot of post here ya'll sure have a ton of information that you share with other like minded people,i find that fantastic.

 

What signs do I see pointing to bad times? Tune in to your local newscast and pick one at random.

 

Well there ya go!! keep reading and ask all the questions you want..somebody will have the answer...or at least "AN" answer..lol..

Again, welcome and enjoy!

... or maybe just an opinion as well ... :scratch

 

what signs?

All of them.

 

what signs?

All of them.

Ya mean like "No Left Turn" or "Your Tax Dollars At Work" or "Dead End"?:gaah:

 

Lots of forclosed homes in my town, most people getting food stamps and metro/section8 housing. There are no living wage jobs around either.

 

They say there are no bread lines yet........the food stamp program is maxed out......hence your new bread lines. There are no jobs, housing is down the toilet, prices on everything are going up, our government doesn't have a clue. These are the signs I see. What bothers me more than anything is the lack of concern the adverage person shows, they don't want to even hear their world could change over night. Just keep prepping and don't tell anyone or you could end up a target. Shhh!

 

The new bread line ... has started ...

I heard on the radio the other day of a few places that are giving out food boxes. Looks like (around here) some can not make it with only food stamps. The boxes had basic foods ... dry beans, taters, apples (seconds from local farmers)

So you know if folks are standing in line for dry beans ... things are bad.

 

Crap like that school shooting today, what the crap is that. A coward pure scum. Some nut or something else, we will see. It's crap like this that tell me that people are close to the breaking point. No kids hurt bad, if not for the plain joe's, who knows what would have happened.

 

When the government revises the jobs lost in the economy for 19 out of 20 months for the worse and the unemployment rate goes down because the government no longer counts the people who are no longer looking for jobs because there are none, you know the :shtf:

oh wait...

 

When the government revises the jobs lost in the economy for 19 out of 20 months for the worse and the unemployment rate goes down because the government no longer counts the people who are no longer looking for jobs because there are none, you know the :shtf:

oh wait...

yeah....

The only people the government has fooled is themselves.

 

Mine son finished his schooling back a few months ago (home school) . He has been looking for a "real job" for more than a year... no luck ...

Unemployment in our area ... over twenty percent. He has been told that when things turn around they will give him a call ... till then he has only the odd job here or there ... So if you add the number of people looking for their first job ... What would the numbers be????

 

They say there are no bread lines yet........the food stamp program is maxed out......hence your new bread lines. There are no jobs, housing is down the toilet, prices on everything are going up, our government doesn't have a clue. These are the signs I see. What bothers me more than anything is the lack of concern the average person shows, they don't want to even hear their world could change over night. Just keep prepping and don't tell anyone or you could end up a target. Shhh!

This says it very well and the sentence in bold, troubles me more than all the rest of the problems that are unfolding. The folks that are oblivious, and I know plenty, are going to be an even worse nightmare than the economic problems themselves.

BTW :welcome:

 

Living in a nanny state with taxpayer funded pensions,life time med benifits ect. and most of the people around here work for the state in some capacity,teacher,bus driver, prison guard,cop,DOT, everyday just looks like everyone hit the lotto,gas guzzeling SUVs all over the place, everyone has a boat that they use once a yr and 2 ATVs,restaurants all full every night, all the retired state workers set in the coffee shop every morning drinking their coffee and buying scratch offs with our money.
I remind them from time to time that we're the next California, enjoy it while you can.

 

There are so many signs that one can't possible know where to start. How about being invaded at our border to the south, being attacked from with in our own borders by Muslim radicals, our government encouraging our younger generation to think they are entitled to everything instead of working for it (yes I know there are still some good people and good kids out there), The government wants total control and in one way or another 100% taxes. Lets put congress in the same health care plans that we have available, give them the same retirement options we have and see how there tune changes. This only scratches the surface of the "signs" out there and I better shut up before my blood pressure get to high again!!!

 

First of all welcome. And one sign I see is America being a push over(currently) when it comes to what other countries want. Just look at our pathetic reaction to Iran and North Korea.

 

Nancy Pelosi just said something about lots of people being on Food Stamps is a good thing, and it'll bolster our economy.

1. That she's so desperate or stupid enough to try to put a spin on that and she's one of the people running things should scare the poop out of us.

2. That it's possible that the current regime's supporters are so stupid that they'll accept that is as scary.

That's a HUGE indicator on how screwed we are.

Then there's the spun lower unemployment numbers. They tried to reduce them and it's still 9.5 to 10.5%, with the actual unemployment way above that and the underemployed rate high.

But the really, really big indicator that there's trouble ahead is when you take a world view. Europe, doesn't exactly have Democrats and Republicans, neither does Asia or Central and South America, but they're facing huge economic problems as well. It's bigger than parties so the cold hard reality is, even a positive turn in the elections ain't going to quickly fix this stuff.

 

We have to get rid of the real people behind the scenes who are pulling the strings of our elected officials. The banksters who ride around in dark limos and never go out into public without their massive body guards and only move from their limos to their mansions. Think about this: If they have the power to kill you or your family and make it look like a suicide do you think that elected officials will be persuaded to do their bidding? Just take a look at how many people died who knew the Clintons. It's not Dems & Rep, which I agree they pit us against each other to keep the focus off them. They're the real problem with this country IMO.

 

Seeing government taking from producing people and giving it away as entitlements. I watch people buying food with food stamps and I cant eat what they eat because I cant afford it. Watching the rules and laws being passed under a name that would imply something good only to see the implications for loss of freedom. Watching jobs go over seas because of stupid lawsuits and over taxation. But most of all, I see people abusing our system to the point that we are past overwhelmed. When you try to give a person a good paying job and they turn it down because they still have several months of "unemployment" left.
I see the insiders taking huge sums of money and buying Gold and other PM's because they seem to know that the dollar is going to be worth less or worthless. Where I live, I see huge warehouses sitting empty because the companies have gone out of business.
I have watched the youth of today and realize that our future maybe lost because they have no concerns for anyone else. They have no moral compass. They know no compassion.

 

food stamps?

They're using their EBT cards to buy steak to feed their pure bred Rotts and Pitbulls in Tacoma Washington.

That's not a facetious joke. EBT can't be used for dog food. How it is people receiving assistance can afford to buy and maintain expensive purebred dogs.