Alright where would one start ... if they want OFF the grid??? I have looked at most of the things out ther now ... You name it , I have looked into it. :confused: I would 'love' to get get off the power grid .. Maybe I'm not looking at the right things ... (help me out) Wind - not in my area ,solar... well right now out of my price range, the river looked good till they made it a statepark...:gaah: So... I'm someone wanting to start out small and work their way out, what would you advise???