What's your favorite source for bulk wheat?

Discussion in 'General Food and Foraging Discussion' started by goshengirl, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. goshengirl

    goshengirl Supporting Member

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    I'm looking to buy bulk wheat berries, and there are so many sources... The closest LDS canning center is a bit far away for me to be able to get there, so I'm looking for online sources. It's hard to compare apples to apples (or, wheat berries to wheat berries, eh?) when some prices include shipping, some don't, etc.

    Emergency Essentials looks good, but if you buy a superpail, then you must have a minimum of 200 lbs in your shipment...

    USA Emergency Supply has both Rainy Day Foods and Honeyville Grain products, but with a HUGE price difference. Obviously Honeyville Grain has label recognition, but is Rainy Day Foods a poor brand, or just an unknown one?

    I've looked at a bunch of other vendors, too, but keep wondering about quality. Don't want to fork over that chunk of change without some first-hand accounts. ;)

    So... any recommendations (and why) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. BadgeBunny

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    I do know of one couple who placed an order with Emergency Essentials and they were very happy with what they got. I don't have any first-hand experience with them and their pails yet. That is one of the things on my to-do list this fall when we have some money freed up. Not real sure how happy the UPS guy is gonna be with me though ...

    If you have any specific questions just let me know and I will ask them.
     

  3. BasecampUSA

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    Many times in the past I have simply bought untreated wheat seed (to store, grind and bake with) from ag coops cheaper than from other sources.

    You can also ask an ag extention agent who grows locally, and call some to see if they will sell a ton or so to you (and your friends).
    This is what we did here in maine last year and got 2500# organic hard red wheatberries delivered on a pallet for $0.47/lb... makes the
    most awesome bread I've tasted.

    We planted some the year before, but it was a bad year (too much moisture). This year I have 1.5 acres planted with wheat, spelt and rye which we will harvest, Lord willing, in July by hand - I have an antique scythe with a grain cradle, and flails to thresh with.

    Question 1: - how can you buy anything from an LDS warehouse without being a member of their church?

    Question 2: - where can you get hull-less oat varieties to plant? Regular oats can't be hulled without special machinery.

    - Basey
     
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  4. UncleJoe

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    I know it won't do you any good, but we get ours from our local feed store in 50# sacks for $10. Not only can it be stored for making flour in the future, it can also be planted.
    It's not going to be nice and clean the way it is in the #10 cans, but at that price I'll put up with a few dead bugs and some chaff. :)
     
  5. BadgeBunny

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    Basey,

    I can't help you with question no. 2 but I think I know the answer to question no. 1.

    Most LDS canneries will can for non-members. It varies from location to location and I noticed the local LDS cannery has started restricting non-members to certain days and times. Just look on-line for a cannery in your area and give them a call. They are really very helpful.
     
  6. gypsysue

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    Johnny's seed company (online or print catalog) has hull-less oats for planting.
     
  7. goshengirl

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    Basey, here's the link to look up your nearest LDS canning center: Welfare locations

    Thanks BadgeBunny - I've 'heard' (read) good things about EE too. Right now just checking out people's experiences - I'll let you know if I have specific questions - thanks!

    And thanks, Uncle Joe and Basey - I should have thought of those places, too. Ironically, we lease aggie land in Montana to a farmer who grew winter red this past year, but sold our share. I'm having one of those "duh!" moments, because I know he would have gladly held out some barrels for us out of our share of the crop. Although with the economy and our financial situation, I have no idea when we'd ever get back to MT to pick up anything again...

    Anyways... I know a couple feed stores to check out. But I think to break into this thing I feel more comfortable with the triple-cleaned superpail option. ;) (rookie wimp that I am) But Basey, once I get DH on board I'd love to have 1.5 acres planted - that's fantastic!
     
  8. BasecampUSA

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    Thank you badgebunny, gypsysue and goshen girl... Huh! - I worked for Johnny's one winter in late 70's doing maintenance work... didn't know they had hulless oats! - I want to grow my own Scotch oatmeal - YUM!

    I got an invite to "can" at an LDS "canning bee" session 10 years ago by an LDS co-worker of mine, but we had to drive 80 miles to buy a pickup + uhaul load of bulk foods and cans at a huge warehouse first, and you HAD to be a member to buy there.

    Incredible what they had there at the "Bishops' Warehouse"... all in bulk and at reasonable prices. Many of them began to seal bulk foods in mylar bags, but if you have just ONE mouse on the loose, it will bite a slew of packages open! Nowadays I have so many hundreds of canning jars that I have collected, that I just use them with 1 oxy-adsorber pack. I keep them in the dark cool rootcellar anyway.

    I grew up with Mormons... pretty decent folks! Our house / gun shop was located between 2 Mormon ranchers on the Colorado-Utah border, and I took care of thier horses when they went to Salt Lake City once a month.

    - Basey
     
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  9. CulexPipiens

    CulexPipiens Still waiting for the zombies.

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    Bobs Red Mill has 25lb bags. Not as good as some of the other sources listed here ($15.62... about .60 per lb) but it doesn't require any cleaning, etc. It's also a common brand that I've seen in many stores so they might be willing to order it for you with their normal order which would probably avoid any shipping charges. It can't hurt to ask.

    Soft White Wheat Berries - Bob's Red Mill

    They also have the Hard Red for $18 and change per 25lb bag or $19 and change if you want Organic.

    Obviously you'll need to do something to make it ready for LTS. Mylar, buckets, cans, etc.
     
  10. goshengirl

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    That's a great idea about the shipping. (I just checked, online their cheapest shipping option for two 25lb bags is $48.78 to my zip code - and that's the cost of shipping only - yikes!) I like all their different products - didn't realize they had some larger options online. Might be able to work out something with the local grocer who carries their line. Thanks for the tip!

    And yep, I'm thinking that getting bags (50lb or 25lb) and putting the wheat into my own buckets is the way to go (got buckets w/ gamma lids, and oxy absorbers, and mylar bags don't cost that much).
     
  11. Genevieve

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  12. BadgeBunny

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    Nothing wrong with that!! :D Like you I tend to move at my own pace, and I don't typically tackle something until I am relatively sure I will be successful. That makes me behind everybody else lots of times but you know what ... I don't screw up and waste stuff as much as some do.

    I know of a couple who is very active with a particular group out this way. They had stored a bunch of wheat, oats, flour and rice themselves, with the help of the more experienced members of this group. Not too long ago he told me they had had to throw everything out because it was all full of bugs. Several hundred dollars worth of stuff. He was pretty upset.
     
  13. Lonewufcry

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    We have gone to a honeyville and picked up several 50lb bags of wheat for a really good price and I think that they had a deal for a bucket, 45lbs of wheat and O2 asorbers pre packed for $29.00 I can't remember the exact price. Anywho they tend to have decent prices. hope that helps
     
  14. longtime

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    Where do you live now?

    I buy from Walton's for storage and everyday use. If you live in the area (eastern Idaho) or travel you can't beat them ( I stop at Walton's at the end of every trip out west).

    I sift every bag as it goes into the the pantry, never had anything but a few green seeds and very little "dust".

    Where ever you buy keep shipping in mind as part of the cost.

    Wheat-Hard Red double plastic 50# bag

    Wheat-Hard Red 6 gal 45# SP

    You might also keep Walmart in mind. About $12.00 for 25# bag, kind of expensive but no shipping cost.
     
  15. goshengirl

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    I NEVER thought about Walmart! Wow, thanks for the suggestion. $12/25# is definitely do-able without shipping. I'll have to check that out!

    Thanks for the Walton's links, too. It's been a long time since I've been to their website - never saw where I could plug in our zip code and get a shipping estimate - that's really helpful.

    And yeah, it's the shipping that's the issue. Figured I'd just have to suck it up and fork it out, or fund a drive to the closest LDS center (5 hours roundtrip) - but it seems there are some definite options. I really appreciate all the help from folks on this thread. :)
     
  16. vn6869

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    It looks like people are scrambling for the canned goods now. Hence, bulk wheat, etc. seem the way to go. Prices are starting to climb accordingly. :dunno:
     
  17. Riverdale

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    What Uncle Joe said. We get our grain fro local feed silos.

    If a cow, sheep or chicken can eat it, so can I. ;)
     
  18. longtime

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    According to posts, not all Walmarts have it. However, everyone I have shopped in has it in the flour and sugar area, on the bottom.
     
  19. goshengirl

    goshengirl Supporting Member

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    longtime, your lead paid off - thank you!

    Walmart in OH doesn't carry whole wheat, but they do in KY (found that out on the Wheat Montana website). Happened to have business down in KY this past weekend, and made sure I stopped at a WalMart before heading home. Comes to 0.52/lb, and no shipping. And the best thing is that it's a Wheat Montana product, and that's a company to which DH and I have a sentimental attachment - makes it a little more palatable for him to see me stocking up on wheat that way... ;)

    So for other rookies here, apparently Walmart carries Wheat Montana but only in certain states. You can check on the Wheat Montana website to see if they're in yours (under the Dealer tab).
     
  20. longtime

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    Your welcome, glad it worked out.