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So story here, about a entire province in Canada, running out of I.C.U. beds. The entire province of Saskatchewan, has 89 Covid positive patients in hospitals. Talks about warning province for 3 months about this. What's the rest of the government supposed to do? They are in charge, of health care, officially, inside the government. Already given billions of dollars federally, to the medical system? Then the medical system was supposed to be all they can be and do all needed. That is how it works in the government. Instead always more excuses and it's politicians fault. Not true in this case. Not entirely, or close to, that's for sure.

So interview talks about, specialized medical people needed. Mostly nurses. But others to.

Story here. Saskatchewan COVID-19 situation 'beyond dire,' says specialist

So 6 patients, got shipped out of the province. So entire province, full up, I guess. Only has 79 I.C.U. beds, for a province of 1 million people. Spread out province to. They must be made of solid gold, or Platinum, I guess. If not, who's getting all that money? For decades to. Lots, I guess.

So one I.C.U. bed for every 12,658 people basically. 1,000,000 / 79 = 12,658.2278...

So what, does it take, to have a physical ICU bed, covered in a sheet of plastic, moth balled, and later, having to be spun up, for actual usage. Just 50 or 100 more in the entire province. Can do economies of scale, to a point to. In some areas anyway.

I have some basic project management training. Planning, etc. So.

1. More physical hospital space.
2. More special medical power outlets, to plug medical gear into.
3. More medical gear.
4. Spare power in watts, for medical equipment, and lighting, and such. Another circuit panel box, coming into building.
5. More and or bigger emergency generators. More generator maintenance and testing.

6. Walls with the medical oxygen gas, and other gasses, with the proper valves and such.
7. All the other infrastructure, behind the scenes, for the medical gasses, and such. Canisters I guess. Proper safe places to store and use them. Secured.
8. More factory capacity, in businesses, when needed, to spin up medical gas production. Some gas anesthetic, for serious operations, don't last 24 hours, I hear before on TV. Must be used fast.

9. Special gear, if and when needed, for medical staff. Space suits.
10. More specialized safety training, for medical staff. More practice when needed.
11. Even more training, for medical staff, and for more already medical staff, dealing with more potential ICU patients. When know beforehand, for sure, like when a worldwide pandemic might occur or is.

12. Stockpiles of sanitization supplies, and protective gear, until companies spin up production. Years worth of face masks, gloves, hand sanitizers, and cleaning supplies. For there entire county, and well dispersed throughout the country.

13 Other drugs, that store well, for other medical problems (patients) that will or may occur, like drug shortages. Bulk foods to maybe, some.

14 The ability, to isolate different ICU patients, by groups. Like covid patients, in one area of a building, or different hospital, or city. Other ICU patients totally separated out. Some of both still in all hospitals. Maybe. The ability to do both, as needed locally for local emergencies responses. A local car accident, get treated, locally still. Not perfect, but realistic. Known ill covid patients, as needed, go to a hub city, and or hospital, with experts specializing, in that field of medicine there, and taking even more extra precautions. more (normal) medical precautions, which are still elevated, in other building, areas, cities or whatever.

15. More filtered air ventilation.
16. More HVAC (High Volume Air Conditioning) systems. Not bigger HVAC. So can be disabled as needed for maintenance. More units. Checks for black mould, whatever. 3 spare HVAC systems. One can fail, one can be down for maintenance, one spare for another failure during maintenance and still have 100% air flow as needed. So if you need 4 for 155% air flow, as needed in total medical building 100% capacity. You need 7 in total. That's how you hopefully, waste money in government.

17. More HVAC maintenance.
18. More basic maintenance staff. Some may get sick and or die to. Everything has to be perfect, all the times, as things seem to be setup for. Not sure what else can be done except more physical separation of the sick. Where they might get sick to. Waiting rooms, etc.

19. Stock piles of HVAC filters. Shock store good if sealed properly and in good boxes and such.
20. More cleaning staff. That turned out, to be a disaster, in the past, when cleaning staff, was layed off. Lots more serious infections and deaths after old people especially, had a operation. There are starting to be, vacuum cleaner robots, and such now. Can be programmed to do routines really well I guess. Hard to beat a human, at doing, a really good job, in complete environments (rooms). Robots can be sanitized, far better, than any human, going through decontamination. Can have a robot come into a patient room when empty and hose everything down if made to be hosed down and then cleaning staff come in, and clean, after disinfectants have time to work. robot can clean hallways and come back later if people are there. Never forgets. People can still do both as needed. Anything changes, like a large scale accident, triage, and robots will not work. Complete random environments. Sprayers and hair dryers if needed, on robots. Robots don't get scared, or tired. Will always go in. Can have a intercom on board. Video cameras. Remote Operator.

No personal safety training needed, for remote operators, in regards to operator themselves, getting infected. Training for extreme decontamination, of robots needed though. Keeping patients safe, training still needed. Might be around others. Best have some anyway. Awareness of potential, of harming patient training, at least.

21 More experts can do I guess.
 

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If you, or a loved one, gets into a serious car accident, for example. We still want I.C.U. beds available.b Staffed to. Staffed to. At the very least. This should be a world wide learning lesson. We have had SARS ans such in the past in Canada. Same with outbreaks in the USA for example. It seems to me as a lay person that when this type of thing happens in North America (NA). It gets dealt with fast, and effectively. No world wide pandemics anyway, if you use that as a metric.

In other places that does not seem the case. Like China. Which has huge populations and is still developing and learning. The culture, is different to. Much older, bu 1000s of years. Like with there housing crisis, that's happening right now, in there financial markets, or may. I can understand, wanting to pull the band-aid off fast, and modernize as quickly as possible, when it comes to developing, as it does hurt some people to. Like poor farmers, and such.

Seems like our government, trusted other countries, to do the same. Respond like we do, and did, several times, to potential pandemic situations. Including newly developing 1st world nations. That looks like a bad idea, trusting. Best to assume, they are not responding properly, and take actions, based upon such a believe. Like airport lock downs, and such against cross border travel. Via vehicles to, lock downs. Vast public awareness. Standards like, caution level 1, or caution level 2, requirement level 1, requirement level 2, for businesses, to understand, what to do. Locally and nation wide, and state wide, and surrounding state wide. what various sectors of the economy, should, and or must do. Travel, food, transportation, tourism, medical, etc. A cargo ship is not a tourist.
 

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Medical people are complaining about physical exhaustion. So more already medical staff, trained to deal with I.C.U. patients. Part of the job, and privilege, of being a medical professional. Basic training of being a medical professional. Do a good job to ,as they are cycles through I.C.U.s, or they loose there job, and license, to practice medicine.

So maybe for 3 months. One group right there (group A). Deals with covid or whatever patients during a pandemic. Then (group B) deals with ICU patients. Just in case something happens to them. One group only sick and or quarantined. Something like that, as needed.
 

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He says in interview. Medical pros are getting burned out. Why? Really, Why? Same things get done for all covid patients or not? Still all else to do to. Why? I heard on the news there was like 10,000 or more new medical professionals being trained in Canada. That was like a year ago, or more. Several years of training needed. But some were in last year of training I assume. What's going on?
 
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