what is a terrorist

Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by guyfour, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. guyfour

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    Given that a "terrorist" can technically be a description of anyone who causes "terror" in any way shape or form, it is my opinion that the word is too generalized to be acceptable as a description for who a war is against (there is no specifically identifiable target, the target can continue shifting and growing). However, I would say to most people it means mostly foreign people who are ideologically programmed to seek the destruction of our country. What does everyone think?
     
  2. Denny

    Denny Praying for America

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    Anyone who poses a mass threat to any people anywhere.

    Obama
     

  3. az82ce

    az82ce Tired Old Land Surveyor

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  4. JeepHammer

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    My definition of a 'Terrorist' is anyone crazy enough to think that killing or maiming of 'Innocent' civilians is a justifiable way to bring attention to their beliefs/cause.
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    Now, the definition of 'Innocent' is much more murky...
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    'Terrorist' definition would not cover acts like most school shootings, work place shootings, or personal grudge type situations.

    That's just plain, simple crazy people settling personal grudges with murder since it wasn't done to publicize any particular religious/political or activist cause.
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    And I agree, the word 'Terrorist' and it's derivatives have been used for some many situations where it doesn't apply that it's quickly loosing it's meaning.

    Much like the 'War On Drugs' has lost it's meaning when they are arresting 15 year old girls for carrying 'Mydol' to school that's a 'Drug Free Zone' and arresting 14 year olds for lending 'Tyolnol' to a classmate that banged his knee during gym class...

    'Terrorist' has lost all meaning when a 7 year old 1st grader is taken away in handcuffs and expelled, and charged with 'Terroristic Threatening' when it threatens to bonk another kid over the head in a school yard argument over a toy truck...
    No mention of killing anyone, and the kid didn't actually do it, but I think a 'Time Out' or a call to parents for a swat on the butt would have been the appropriate response,

    Not a half dozen SWAT members, an arrest, criminal record, and expulsion over two first graders wanting to play with the same toy...
    Who over reacted in this situation?... :(

    The world is full of extremists and nuts,
    And more of them seem to be taking positions of authority every day...
    People with a complete lack of common sense!
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2008
  5. carnut1100

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    +1000!
    Couldn't have put it better myself.
     
  6. JeepHammer

    JeepHammer Well-Known Member

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    I just changed your "Lemon Chiffon" color to 'Blue' so people could see your remark.
    I was going to comment on your choice of "Lemon Chiffon" for a color and what that says about you as a person, but I'm going to leave that one alone... ;)

    So, do you really think Obama is a terrorist?
    If so, that makes you the 'Extremest', not him...
    He's working well within the framework of the American political system, and every tiny part of his life is being magnified and scrutinized in detail...

    Would your life stand such scrutiny with the extremists interpreting and spinning everything?
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2008
  7. JeepHammer

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    Aussies and Kiwis are rational, sensible people from my interactions with them.

    They seem to have respect for their neighbors, fulfill their commitments and keep their noses out of places they don't belong, but don't take any crap from anyone either.

    Doesn't surprise me we would see eye to eye on stuff like this...
     
  8. ceilinghobo

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    So does anyone know at what point terrorism itself might be completely gone and the war on terror can come to an end?
     
  9. JeepHammer

    JeepHammer Well-Known Member

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    It will never 'Come To An End'...

    The is simply too much money in it.
    Keeping you scared stupid keeps you consuming like crazy, and the people making all those consumable goods want to keep you buying their products.

    If we all started trying to live sustainably, quit buying junk food and tabloid magazines,
    Gas guzzlers and video games,
    and started thinking about what our actions are having on the planet, then they would be out of business.

    Anyway, learn to use what you have to it's fullest,
    Learn to use what you have, instead of wanting what the other guy has, and a bunch of this will correct it's self...
     
  10. Denny

    Denny Praying for America

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    I was hoping someone would catch that! I have a really dry, sarcatic sense of humor. What it says about me as a person? Damn, he's a funny mo-fo. LOL

    I don't like him or support him or his views, but if I honestly knew he was a terrorist, he wouldn't be alive right now, as with anyone for that matter.
     
  11. guyfour

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    So the war on terror is an endless war? Isn't there any law against creating endless wars / endless bills you have to pay?
     
  12. Denny

    Denny Praying for America

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    Think about what "war" was declared on. Not a nation, rather a state of being. How does that end? We have a war on drugs, war against AIDS, etc.
     
  13. EGoldstein

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    AIDS is a definable entity. Drugs are a definable entity although the word drugs can change meaning as terrorism can. Terrorists are a redefinable entity combined with accepted redefinition of the term war this is a largely variable target.
     
  14. Freedom

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    Shouldn't Gangs in the USA be considered terrorist? They spread terror right!
     
  15. Rooster1984

    Rooster1984 Newbie

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    One who incites terror for political gain.

    Although with today's definition we are all domestic terrorists.
     
  16. notyermomma

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    An individual or group who targets random civilians with physical violence specifically to make an ideological (generally political or religious) point.

    Sadly, since 9/11 the word "terrorist" has become increasingly cheapened as a broad brush for anyone who uses violence or has an agenda which the speaker finds inconvenient or repulsive. Kind of like McCarthy's "communists," it's lost all meaning and is now just a psychological trigger word at which we all obediently jump.
     
  17. Rooster1984

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    No. It has to be for political reasons, or, in the very least religious.
     
  18. Tweto

    Tweto I love the smell of Argon in the morning

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    As any one noticed that first 14 posts were by members that started in Oct 08?

    What is that, one in a million chance!
     
  19. PurpleHeartJarhead

    PurpleHeartJarhead I'm tired boss, dog tired.

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    Both are ideological, which is what the classic definition of terrorism states the users of terror hope to bring attention to, their ideological cause.

    Just sayin'...
     
  20. PurpleHeartJarhead

    PurpleHeartJarhead I'm tired boss, dog tired.

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    I would think the probability is much lower than that given the first 14 posts were also posted in 2008, no?