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I have noticed that you seldom ever see a male American doc anymore.Now even the females are mostly foreign.
Have we sued them out of business or do foreign docs get a special rate on insurence or what has happened?
Don't get me wrong I have had some wonderful foreign docs,especially 2 , a spanish and a India indian about 40 years ago.
One dr. from Pakistan would not look me in the eye and could'nt hide his dislike for me.Another muslim gave me a hate filled stair.I took the office cleark I don't want any more muslim dr.s,she got pissed off and asked why.I told her I don't trust them,because they aact like hateful fools..
 

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Perhaps it's just in your area &/or the offices you visit. I'm a nurse in east Texas & that has not been my experience.
I have the facts on my side about this,google it.White American males who were the majority no longer seek the medical profession compared to immigrants.More white females do than before but they too are in the minority.Most dr.s in med school are asian or middle eastern.
My son lives in east Texas and it sure is his experiance.Hes lived there for 25 years now.:dunno:
Guess its the part of town you live in.
 

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unfortunately, there are easier ways to make much more money with less schooling or liability, also the prestige once possessed is no longer there

and anyone that tells you that they didn't become an MD for the money and/or prestige is not just a liar, they're a damn liar
 

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unfortunately, there are easier ways to make much more money with less schooling or liability, also the prestige once possessed is no longer there

and anyone that tells you that they didn't become an MD for the money and/or prestige is not just a liar, they're a damn liar
I know,but anyone who goes through that kind of study for all those years deserve to have it made.
I want my dr.my dentist and my pilot to be rich and happy.:wave:
 

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yep, yet the opposite is happening
Like L. Grizzard said"its not the flying that scares him,its the crashing and burniing".
Idon't want some depressed dentist with a drill in my mouth.Or a dr.who can't speak english giving me treatment.
A few years ago a man was havign surgery,well the Paki dr. did'nt understand the dr. when he ask for some kind of blood iv.My friend a nurse said the mans blood shot all the way to the OR doors!
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Very rare now to find a Caucasian doctor here too it seems. We do finally have an amazing doctor, who is white and female and not ancient. She follows through with everything she says she is going to do, and takes the time to listen and explain things. She seems very knowledgeable and kind. I haven't been able to find these qualities in any doctor until now. However, this is through a non-profit targeted towards low-income people without a doctor, seniors, homeless, and people with mental health issues. Seems it must draw people who actually want to be doctors because they care about people. Now, if she could just find some like-minded specialists, we'd be set.

We thought they were all gone to the US where they could make more money than with our system. I guess not!
 

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not to keep the race-baiting issue alive, but you do know that Indians (nationality) & Middle Easterners generally are 'white' (caucasian), right?
 

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One of my coworker's husband had to go to Grenada to go to school. Because he was a white male with good but not outstanding academic record he could not get into an american medical school. They were all filled with their quota of foreign students.
Don't get me wrong. Lots of the family practice residents are good doctors, but the last 10 years they have been 90% foreign birth doctors.
 

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I think it is not only our doctors (race unimportant). We do not produce enough scientists, engineers, computer programmers, etc. and, therefore, have to hire foreign specialists.
For far too long the educational emphasis has been on letting children do "what they like", so most of them went for easier college degrees, i.e. liberal arts and not science. Medical school requires some serious learning and there is no time for partying. So if we want more American doctors, we need to start with the education reform. And something needs to be done about ridiculously high cost of higher education.
Just my $0.02 :)
 

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One of my coworker's husband had to go to Grenada to go to school. Because he was a white male with good but not outstanding academic record he could not get into an American medical school.
One of my friends went to a foreign medical school as well, but his reasoning was cost. He did not want to have $100+K in student loan debt upon finishing med school.
 

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not to keep the race-baiting issue alive, but you do know that Indians (nationality) & Middle Easterners generally are 'white' (caucasian), right?
I don't care what color my doc is.

I care about this: Can we effectively communicate? Grrrr. Does anyone here want a pilot who can't understand the air traffic controller? Same with a doc. How the hell do we get docs who can't speak or understand English?!
 

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Even worse is a Dr. that won't listen!
Yes, same here to both. My spouse's specialists are all of a different nationality. I think Ugandan, Nigerian and one from the Caribbean. Not really any problems. There was with one at first due to communication style, but it did change greatly for the better after the physical exam when he had us go to his office to discuss what we should do. Another gave us a big speech about how doctors wouldn't be here without the patients and they work for us and if we need to know something, say something as it's our right, etc. Never heard that from a doctor before!

It's not necessarily about even understanding what they are saying (which can be a huge barrier) but also style of communication, personality (or lack thereof, when with a patient), etc. I don't know, but some of my issues and just the type of person I am requires a doctor who listens, is knowledgeable, caring and takes the time. I don't care what colour of skin this person has or where they come from. This isn't just someone I see in passing. It's someone I need to be able to trust with my life and assortment of medical problems. We need to understand each other. Have had as many issues with white doctors who are ignorant jerks. However, I did post because I also noticed there are not many white doctors that I've run into, compared to non-white.
 

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White anglo saxon male physician here to chime in. This has nothing to do with the race issue, I have met excellent foreign docs as well as low quality "white" docs. The real issue here is the breakdown of the whole medical system. In medical school, I had two weeks of nutrition training and two years of pharmacology. The system is set up to treat symptoms of illness with medication without ever actually making people better based on the root cause of disease. And forget about wellness.... I spent 10 years in medical school and residency and then 10 years as a surgeon, I became so disenchanted with the system that I dropped out. I quit surgery, quit taking any insurance and now focus only on wellness and health optimization through nutrition and fitness. It was never a money thing for me and for a good portion of the physicians I know, they did not go into for the money. I neglected to mention that my income dropped 6 fold when I quit operating but my quality of life increased 100 fold.
 

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White anglo saxon male physician here to chime in. This has nothing to do with the race issue, I have met excellent foreign docs as well as low quality "white" docs. The real issue here is the breakdown of the whole medical system. In medical school, I had two weeks of nutrition training and two years of pharmacology. The system is set up to treat symptoms of illness with medication without ever actually making people better based on the root cause of disease. And forget about wellness.... I spent 10 years in medical school and residency and then 10 years as a surgeon, I became so disenchanted with the system that I dropped out. I quit surgery, quit taking any insurance and now focus only on wellness and health optimization through nutrition and fitness. It was never a money thing for me and for a good portion of the physicians I know, they did not go into for the money. I neglected to mention that my income dropped 6 fold when I quit operating but my quality of life increased 100 fold.
The thread is not about race,but about the end of American culture and the beginning of the american third world to come.
I see our universities filling up with non-assimulating foreigners.
I don't live in India,iran,france or Poland and don't care about their politics they always seem to yap about.
I posted here last month about one from india who basically said old people should die! These people are from barbaric nations and "SOME" want to bring it here.
 

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my neighbor is a trauma specialist because he wasn't smart enough to become a veterinarian... :rolleyes:
Well, yeah, you can't see a dog for just 2 minutes, give it a prescription and make it go away :D
Works fine with most humans :D
 
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