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I'm preparing for economic collapse. I believe it will be triggered by Greece defaulting. It won't happen the next day but after Greece defaults a lot of other dominoes will start to fall.
If you're right, we'll have time to use whatever resources we have left to make last-minute purchases while the sheeple are still in denial.

md1911, you're right, adapt or die. The sad thing is so many people are trying hard to be prepared to be able keep life just the way it is now. As our administrator, Naekid, said last year... we have to be willing to let go of the way life was and adapt to what life becomes.
 

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Another thought. Small family size groups are more vulnerable to attack than larger groups say 30 adults. To many and it would be nearly impossible to feed. With the concerns of opsec it could be very difucult to help and or communicat with other like minded people. In the event theirs no internet. Any thoughts on how to rebuild. Trust of your fellow man will be at a low point
 

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Look at all the good movies. Those movies were researched thoroughly. Road Warrior, Postman, they seemed to build walled cities. Defensible positions and strongholds. Everybody was assigned a battle station. In the old days, a castles walls were sometimes a hundred feet thick. Some of the Knights Templar positions had walls thicker than that. It was a brutal world that we cannot comprehend. A castle in Wales was under siege for over seven years. Imagine how that was. I think we will go back to that if everything collapses. The army that invades you will stay as long as they want. You will not even be able to survive in a large village because you will be burned out, trying to put your pitchforks up against arrows and swords. I taught myself how to make a gun from scratch. Learn how to make gunpowder. You won't be able to make cartridges, but an old single shot musket is better than nothing, after all the modern guns are gone. We have to be the ones that carry this information on through the dark days to come. Keep your people learned in reading and math.
 

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A seige only works if your entire force is trapped inside. Also why would u plan on using pitchforks?
 

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It Takes Time

Preparing for what is about to come is not an overnight exercise. It takes time, concentration and research. I have been prepping for about 15 years now and I still have things to do. If you happen to have extensive monetary resources you could probably do it in a few months and only if you have the appropriate information. Check out Ark Two at http://www.webpal.org/ and see what can be done with time, money and plenty of hands involved. I am a member and believe me Mr. Beach keeps you up to date on the worlds activities. We need to keep tabs on more than just what is happening here in the U.S. Keep in mind that we live under the rule of the most corrupt government on the planet and they will skew anything and everything to keep us in the dark. Just look at the unemployment numbers. What the government tells us is so far from the facts it's pitiful. I, for one, am unemployed and I'm not included in any of their numbers. Anyway, I could go on ad infinitum about our non-leaders. Keep prepping and God bless.
 

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I'm preparing for:

1. short term - weather related disasters.

2. Economic collapse, resulting in a worthless dollar and the social collapse that will be sure to follow shortly there after. Including looting by people just trying to survive and worse gangs and groups of people trying to take advantage of the lawlessness that will be there at the time. Police, fireman, even the military will want to protect their own families and without pay they will quickly abandon their positions.

I, like alot of people, hope this never happens. But I would like to be prepared for it. I am just getting started on preparing and I'm on a budget and affraid I have gotten a late start at it. I just hope I have the time to get better prepared.[/SIZE][/FONT]
 

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I agree

you guys are right to prepare, but as to what for. I fear the govt that fears its people. folks this taco stand has a negative 65 trillion dollar networth. That is 65 - 115 trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities of our federal govt - thats u and me. the govt will default as soon as the fed prints enough money to cause inflation. i doubt we will ever get to hypher inflation just 10% acknowledged inflation rate will take most small businesses down, and then we will see martial law. I could be wrong it could be something else that causes martial law, today you have news stories advocating war and retaliation from iran, who knows. Martial Law will come, it will be ugly for those who are near the metropolitan centers. it could be as equally bad for those in rural areas. there are so many executive orders on the books now, they can take your firearms, food, farm land, businesses, whatever they want. can't imagine why they would want all that stuff, seems like they will want some people to be self sufficient while they sort out the mess. none-the-less, prepare, have back up plans, caches of goods. pray 2 chron 7:14 if you are of the mind. it may be our only hope.
I agree totally. Their are elements in the government that would love to see a situation that would allow them to install marshall law and suspend the constitution. All we can hope for is that there is enough people prepared to resist and that enough law enforcement and military personnel take their oaths to defend the constitution seriously and refuse to follow unlawful orders. I for one will be one of those Military members.
 

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Are you sure, sometimes if I have ice in a cup and it melts the cup can overflow if it's near the top...
The reason for that phenomenon is the fact that water is the only substance that expands when it freezes. The amount of ice that shows above the water is a very small in comparison with the amount that is submerged below the water level. Like the old saying just the tip of the iceberg. The expanded volume of the water in the form of ice under the surface is greater than the amount that shows on the top.
 

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Collapse of socieity for any reason...financial meltdown (super depression), emp attack, next revolution/governmental collapse, nuclear accident upwind. these are my big four worries.
 

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I am a newbie but I am a life long Democratic fear our government. Not socialist just financial melt down. I am a vet who live off my disability and retirement so if the government. Goes down so do I and my family. I will not let that happen
 

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Lots of interesting reasons for prepping, I am prepping more for natural disasters, being from California we tend to have our share of earthquakes.. My lesson was learned right after the Loma Prieta quake back in 89. I have a good weapons arsenal and ammunition supply but need to learn the basics for food selection and other survival type supplies.
 

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I'm preparing for a situation where I can't hop in the van and make a trip to Walmart for a package of hamburger, or a gallon of milk. I'm planning for a time my retirement check won't be waiting in my bank account when I want to write a check. I'm stocking a few pairs of Wranglers for the time I can't get on the Internet to order replacements for my tattered ones. I'm adding some rice and beans to my pantry so I won't become a burden or a threat to others if the truckers can't bring the farmer's goods to market. I've even stocked up on extra cans of freeze dried chili-mac, in case the Marine vet next door needs help feeding his three little girls in tough times. And yes, I'm equipped to defend my little cache from the lefties and the leeches who will learn too late that the government they adore will not be there to take care of them when they most need it.

I'm not preparing for years of living like a rat in a hole, eating bugs and carrion while in constant fear of being discovered and attacked by inhuman predators. Survival is important, but not that important to me.

Depending on age and situation, we all draw our line somewhere. Life is precious, but without a light at the end of the tunnel, it's not worth returning to prehistoric conditions simply to keep breathing. I can't say where that line is for me, but I'll know when I get there and then I'll decide the next step...if it hasn't already been decided for me. If I go, it will be with the satisfaction of knowing I did the best I could with what I had.
 

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I am preparing for the unexpected which would be natural disaster, and the inevitable which is man made disaster - not sure which will be first but I am sure there will be one.
 

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GaryS....At last, a comment that makes sense and is very logical. I wish you were my next door neighbor. I too am a survivor, not a survivalist. I will use my intellect to make life the best I can in an emergency whether it be short or long. I also will do what I can to help my neighbors live a more stable life while I can. If we all would adjust our thinking to the good of the community, no one would have to eat bugs and live on a hole. Remember, those who beat their swords in to plow shares and their spears in to pruning hooks, will be plowing and pruning for those who do not. Prepare "NOW". God bless...........
 

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1 economic collapse. From this comes civil unrest, then scarce food, water and fuels
2 natural disaster. In my area quakes severe hot and/or severe cold
3 war, invasion, martial law, nuclear attacks
 

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I don't think like most--so seed blight.
This isn't just one crop blight---what if it affected ALL seeds--flowers, vegetables, all farmer's crops that feed livestock!!!:eek:


If it happens to one sometimes, why couldn't it happen to all?
With Monsanto and their 'don't care' attitude, it is a possibility.

I just read labs are testing soil sprayed with Roundup over and over and the soil is depleted of minerals.

Think about that folks!
 

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As I recall it does not deplete them it locks them up so they are not available for plants to use. Remember Monsatan used to advertise that roundup was bio-degradable and gone in 30 days? They don’t say that anymore because it isn’t!!

There was an article today that Monsatan is going to sue Vermont if they pass legislation to require GMO labeling on GMO products. If GMO was as good as they say it is I would think they would be happy about this.
 
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