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This has nothing to do with preparing,that should be done no matter what else,its just a question about how long can we last if the nation is totally destroyed by dictators.

Besides preparing what do you do to stop the fall of this nation?

How long do you think you can hide out and survive without being found and captured or controlled?

I don't see anyone avoiding the PTB,aka'powers that be' longer than they allow it.Too much technology to be used against us.

What about the nation you'll be leaving for your children?Will they become a generation of loners or gypsys too? I don't see it being a possiblity at all in the long run we will lose if we don't peacefully fight whle we still have a chance to win.

I was talking to a friend who was telling me about other natiosn where the citizens left and went to hde but were later found and destroyed or persecuted.She said that sooner or later they controlled everyone.She was from Africa when it was brittish ruled.But now the west sem to be the ones who want this New World Order,or elitist rulership.

What do yall think?Anyone trying to stop the advance of socialist communism and dictatorship here in America?
 

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I am staying informed, going to rallys, voting. I am raising a kid (another on the way) who I will teach right from wrong. I also dont have a problem joining in on a conversation and telling people what I think about the discussion. I have written senators and governors on several different occasions. I think the most important thing I do is pray for our country. Any ideas for what more a person can/should do? I know there may come a time when I have to take it to the next level but that time hasnt come just yet.
 

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Active duty military (retiring soon), teach conservative values college courses, attend political events, inform and teach Constitution and Found Father's intent, write to congressmen and senators, share preparation, survival, and fieldcraft skills with friends, neighbors, relatives, scouts, etc..

And soon...increase volunteerism to political efforts.
 

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I am staying informed, going to rallys, voting. I am raising a kid (another on the way) who I will teach right from wrong. I also dont have a problem joining in on a conversation and telling people what I think about the discussion. I have written senators and governors on several different occasions. I think the most important thing I do is pray for our country. Any ideas for what more a person can/should do? I know there may come a time when I have to take it to the next level but that time hasnt come just yet.
Personally I don't think there is a'next'level for us to go to.We are far outgunned and outnumbered.But I think we might be able to turn thigns around if people would unite and clean house and senate with protest and votes.

The tea party looked hopeful and still does if we don't let the polititions take it over.It also needs some young blood in it,the 6 tea party meeting I went to had very few young people attending.I saw 3 at the last one out of a room of 200.

I believe in God too,but from what I've seen out of the majority of christians in this nation their prayers are not being heard,whos being heard are those who get out in the streets,go to town hall and commish meetings and demand rights.

I'd like to know where the christians were which is suppose to be 80% of us when the small number of perverts took over our schools and military with their agendas.:confused:
 

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Active duty military (retiring soon), teach conservative values college courses, attend political events, inform and teach Constitution and Found Father's intent, write to congressmen and senators, share preparation, survival, and fieldcraft skills with friends, neighbors, relatives, scouts, etc..

And soon...increase volunteerism to political efforts.
Thanks for your service to our countrty.:congrat:

Seems your involved pretty involved.

And yes if we don't prepare we won't be able to do anything without a good foundation at home of survival supplies.

I stopped going to town hall meetings 5 years ago_Only takers were there no givers.Asking for more freebees off the tax payers.Wwhen we left I wanted to tell out at everyone I saw,"do you know what they are doing in there"!
 

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Paying exorbetant taxes and supporting another family by paying them a salary that THEY pay taxes with
Good for you we need more small business.But what about the liberty part,you seem to have the securty taken care of,which is important too?

Did all of you see the millions of illegals in our streets,they got most of what they ask for,and they did'nt deserve to ven be here,much less make demands.

it never would have happend if they had stayed home and wrote to their leaders.

We are all on the terror watch list,and the noose is getting tighter,soon we will hang ourselves with the silent stand we take.

LOL, As I type a call comes in,a recording on my phone from the Governer,Rick Scott. :cool:
 

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Personally I don't think there is a'next'level for us to go to.We are far outgunned and outnumbered.But I think we might be able to turn thigns around if people would unite and clean house and senate with protest and votes.
Personally it is debateable how outnumbered or outgunned we really are. The question is if the time came would we all know it and respond to it by standing together in force? There are so many conservative thinking gun owners including those in the ranks of the police and military that I dont think its in the feds interest to use force en masse at this time either.
The tea party looked hopeful and still does if we don't let the polititions take it over.It also needs some young blood in it,the 6 tea party meeting I went to had very few young people attending.I saw 3 at the last one out of a room of 200.
Again you make a good points here but I am also surprised by some of the folks I talk to that are in their 20's that realize there is a problem and that continuing in a liberal direction will only make things worse. They want to be free to gain and suffer their own consequences. They are few but growing. Its not all bad news out there.
I believe in God too,but from what I've seen out of the majority of christians in this nation their prayers are not being heard,whos being heard are those who get out in the streets,go to town hall and commish meetings and demand rights.
Everything I have said up to this point is debatable but of this I am sure: God hears our prayers. Despite our yearnings for political and personal freedom Gods plan may not include that for us. Still, His will for our lives (weather in freedom or slavery) has our best interests in mind. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? I think you know this too but times are very frustrating.
I'd like to know where the christians were which is suppose to be 80% of us when the small number of perverts took over our schools and military with their agendas.:confused:
"As goes the Christians so goes the nation" -- I believe this. We will be allowed by God to endure great heardship or lose this nation entirely based on the faith of the Christian. In essense its us, fellow Christians, who need to turn away from the things of the world (including both bad and good deeds) and back to simple faith in God. What argument do we have when we say that a non-Christian does this or that when we know that person is lost (spiritually speaking). Often our own ranks do those very things (hopefully that doesnt include me or you but in some cases it might). Focus on the spiritual and give everything over to God.

I hope all that came across the way I meant it to.
 

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Active duty military (retiring soon), teach conservative values college courses, attend political events, inform and teach Constitution and Found Father's intent, write to congressmen and senators, share preparation, survival, and fieldcraft skills with friends, neighbors, relatives, scouts, etc..

And soon...increase volunteerism to political efforts.
I second the big "Thanks"! One of the biggest 'what ifs' in my life is in regard to the military. I can only imagine the comeraderie that can be built there. I believe good things will come out of the young men and women who are serving our country now overseas and at home. THANKS!:congrat:
 

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What would happen if millions of us went to our local town halls and demanded change or next vote they are all out?I know it would make a huge difference.

Who storms the congressional meetigns?Illegals who should'nt even be here;homosexuals demanding our kids know how to have sex their way at age 6;seniors wanted more benefits;union workers wanting us to up their benefits while the nation falls into depression;new sometimes radical immigrants wanted foot bathes and gender speration in our schools,special prayer time [ they took christian prayer out long ago,where were the christians and jews],etc. and look what they accomplished.Not by staying home and emailing or writgting or praying,but they did it by getting in their seditious face.

We could start a peaceful revolution if we stood together,all of us,red,yellow ,black and white.

This is won't happen but imagine what we could do if it did.
 

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Personally it is debateable how outnumbered or outgunned we really are. The question is if the time came would we all know it and respond to it by standing together in force? There are so many conservative thinking gun owners including those in the ranks of the police and military that I dont think its in the feds interest to use force en masse at this time either.

Again you make a good points here but I am also surprised by some of the folks I talk to that are in their 20's that realize there is a problem and that continuing in a liberal direction will only make things worse. They want to be free to gain and suffer their own consequences. They are few but growing. Its not all bad news out there.

Everything I have said up to this point is debatable but of this I am sure: God hears our prayers. Despite our yearnings for political and personal freedom Gods plan may not include that for us. Still, His will for our lives (weather in freedom or slavery) has our best interests in mind. What good is it for a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? I think you know this too but times are very frustrating.

"As goes the Christians so goes the nation" -- I believe this. We will be allowed by God to endure great heardship or lose this nation entirely based on the faith of the Christian. In essense its us, fellow Christians, who need to turn away from the things of the world (including both bad and good deeds) and back to simple faith in God. What argument do we have when we say that a non-Christian does this or that when we know that person is lost (spiritually speaking). Often our own ranks do those very things (hopefully that doesnt include me or you but in some cases it might). Focus on the spiritual and give everything over to God.

I hope all that came across the way I meant it to.
I like the way you say things,you have a better gift with words than I do and you make a lot of sense.
I agree we need prayer and plenty of it.But God helps those who help themselves too.Even the deciples were armed[Peter drew his'sword'to cut off the guards ear]but the time was wrong for swords as Jesus told him.

And if its the time of the end nothign will stop the destruction to come,but if its not,only we can try to stop our enslavement.

Every day we see the Trojan Horse within forming its armies against us.They are getting more rights as we lose more.

For intance,people like us are all on the terror watch list,while they took off the muslims. Our litle girls are being molested in our own airports because of terror,yet the burka clad muslims just walk on by because it against their religian to be touched.

On the news they said 80% of mosque in America are preaching violent jihad.Chruches are closing while mosque and madrasses are going up everyday from money from Saudi Arabia.
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What would happen if millions of us went to our local town halls and demanded change or next vote they are all out?I know it would make a huge difference.

Who storms the congressional meetigns?Illegals who should'nt even be here;homosexuals demanding our kids know how to have sex their way at age 6;seniors wanted more benefits;union workers wanting us to up their benefits while the nation falls into depression;new sometimes radical immigrants wanted foot bathes and gender speration in our schools,special prayer time [ they took christian prayer out long ago,where were the christians and jews],etc. and look what they accomplished.Not by staying home and emailing or writgting or praying,but they did it by getting in their seditious face.

We could start a peaceful revolution if we stood together,all of us,red,yellow ,black and white.

This is won't happen but imagine what we could do if it did.
I agree with you. In part thats what the tea party is doing. The fact is that we all have lives and cant protest every day -- the saddest fact is that many of us dont vote because we think it doesnt do any good. I believe if EVERYONE voted things would change for the better. I also think folks that arent keeping up with the issues shouldnt vote even if they can. I also think that only landowners should be able to vote but most disagree and do so loudly.

Im not against protesting but if we would all just vote intelligently there wouldnt be a problem to protest.
 

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I second the big "Thanks"! One of the biggest 'what ifs' in my life is in regard to the military. I can only imagine the comeraderie that can be built there. I believe good things will come out of the young men and women who are serving our country now overseas and at home. THANKS!:congrat:
I think that these fine men and women are being used to help turn the world over to islam ithout even knowing it.I also think it is our duty to stop the illegals wars going on in our name for past 60 yeas too.
I thank my son and all my vets but the time comes to where we also have to stop putting them in harms way for the benefit of greed and one world order power.

I cry when I hear another of Americas best life has been sacrificed for these eleitist.Thats not Ron Paul,Alex Jones talking they are right sometimes,but thats just common sense to know they are turning over one nation after another to Muslim Brotherhoods and other radicals.

Look at Viet nam,Korea,Georgia,Balkans,Croasia,Serbia,Lebanon,Iraq,Lybia,etc,etc,etc.
 

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I think that these fine men and women are being used to help turn the world over to islam ithout even knowing it.I also think it is our duty to stop the illegals wars going on in our name for past 60 yeas too.
I thank my son and all my vets but the time comes to where we also have to stop putting them in harms way for the benefit of greed and one world order power.

I cry when I hear another of Americas best life has been sacrificed for these eleitist.Thats not Ron Paul,Alex Jones talking they are right sometimes,but thats just common sense to know they are turning over one nation after another to Muslim Brotherhoods and other radicals.

Look at Viet nam,Korea,Georgia,Balkans,Croasia,Serbia,Lebanon,Iraq,Lybia,etc,etc,etc.
I definitely agree. I like the "walk softly and carry a big stick" foriegn policy. I dont think we should ever go to war without being willing to see many hundreds of thousands of civilian casualtys (on their side of course). I think our soldiers lives are worth tens (or more) of theirs. We cannot go around trying to secure the freedom of folks that wont fight for it on their own.
 

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I support 18 people with jobs. most of them with health insurance and I keep them out of the unemployment line....but they wouldn't give us credit for doing that at all, I'm about ready to fire everyone of them and hire some folks who are hungry...

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I agree with you. In part thats what the tea party is doing. The fact is that we all have lives and cant protest every day -- the saddest fact is that many of us dont vote because we think it doesnt do any good. I believe if EVERYONE voted things would change for the better. I also think folks that arent keeping up with the issues shouldnt vote even if they can. I also think that only landowners should be able to vote but most disagree and do so loudly.

Im not against protesting but if we would all just vote intelligently there wouldnt be a problem to protest.
Problem is they lie like dogs to get in then join each other to take more of our rights away.

The emails are never even seen by any of them,they have an standard reply,same with the letters if you even et a reply,most are ignored though.

The Tea Party in Washinton a couple years ago had a speaker from a amnesty pushing radical latino group,I think it was Univision the same one Sarah Palin and her sidekick Juan MCcain works with.

If we go to them in person it will make a bigger impact than from just voting.

Ron'pork'Paul will probably die in office like some of the others,yet he is the hope of man Americans.We need term limits badly! Pauls district gets plenty of pork.He's been in there for 45 yrs.
 

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I definitely agree. I like the "walk softly and carry a big stick" foriegn policy. I dont think we should ever go to war without being willing to see many hundreds of thousands of civilian casualtys (on their side of course). I think our soldiers lives are worth tens (or more) of theirs. We cannot go around trying to secure the freedom of folks that wont fight for it on their own.
I'm sure not one of those anti-war freaks who blame it on the troops either,I blame it on myself and the nation that vots i nleaers who send them off.I saw the after effects of V.Nam,visiting the VA Hospitas in Decata Ga.in the late 60s.Back then you could visit [now you have to be checked out to visit them,name record and SS#]. What I saw everyone should have to see before they rally behind the illegal wars. One kid had no arms or legs,just a body and head.This was for what?
 

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I support 18 people with jobs. most of them with health insurance and I keep them out of the unemployment line....but they wouldn't give us credit for doing that at all, I'm about ready to fire everyone of them and hire some folks who are hungry...

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LOL I do understand.A good depresion would'nt hurt most of us that are spoiled by our blessings.

We have plenty of good labor in our rpisons and ghettos.If your on welfare and and have another kid,you should be made to work for every check you get,able to brred ,able to feed.If in prison and have kids which 99% do,work off the welfare patments to them.

All foreign labor will disappear and so will crime and welfare.
 

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This thread has turned very negative thanks to me.But so has this nation ,thanks to us.

We need to know whats going on and whos paying the price for it.Our young men and women are paying now,soon us older ones will pay for giving away their nation to invaders and treasonous leaders.

We need to take back our nation.I think starting at the local levels will work miracles.
 

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I was thinking if all f us tried to get just 5 people 10 even better to go to a commish or rep meeting next time they meet.I bet you will be suprised to see what the discuss.

The one with the wheelchair lady ,one of the rep.s was sitting back in his chair spred legged like a ill mannered rapper,I was expecting him to grab his cotch any moment. Discuused buying land for a city project.It was'nt what the city needed anyway but it was "I want this or that"like it was there money they were spending.One million here and one milllion there for private land.Betcha land owner was no stranger to these crooks.

If you can't gt anyone to go and you probably can't,go alone and just watch and listen.Don't worry,theres always plenty of room for seating.
 
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