We are the 99 percent.

Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by Salekdarling, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Salekdarling

    Salekdarling Member

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    I don't know how to feel about all of these people. I support their right to have their voices heard and yet I feel like they aren't trying to do something about their debts. It's almost like they are asking for handouts.

    We Are the 99 Percent

    I am one of these 99 percent and I'm pretty darn sure the rest of you are too. My Husband and I are living from paycheck to paycheck and we have no health insurance. The student loans between the two of us is probably around 50K. I had to put a forbearance on my loans just last week because my paychecks will NOT cover all of my loans per month...and now my loans are going to accrue more interest. Not a happy camper about that either way but I will pay my debt off. I just can't right now with the level of income I have. It's enough money to insure a roof over our heads and food in the pantry. (Also, coupons, food perks and buying in bulk is a blessing in disguise)

    I'm aiming for ten years to be debt free...if TEOTWAWKI doesn't happen before than. :D I'm at least trying to take responsibility for my debts.

    What's your take on Occupy Wall Street? Annoyed? Angry? Supportive?
    What about the 99 percent?
     
  2. Asatrur

    Asatrur Well-Known Member

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    I think some are bums asking for a handout, but then most are just sick of the fake free-market/capitalist economy we have where those big companies get rewarded with bailouts, while the little person gets screwed. Our politicians are corrupt from down low to up high including all sides of the aisle and it is time for the people to take back what it ours. The tea party talks a good talk, but these guys are getting folks talking and listening. This reminds me more of the good old revolution days more than listening to a bunch of tea party folks talk about doing something.
     

  3. kejmack

    kejmack Texas!!!

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    They are demanding free college tuition and free health care. I don't know who they think is going to pay for all this "free" stuff.
     
  4. TheAnt

    TheAnt Aesops Ant (not Aunt)

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    I think they are a bunch of uninformed folks who think they are entitled to a certain standard of living with certain benefits (health care being one of those). This is as anti-American as it gets. They are entitled to NOTHING but opportunity and most wouldnt know an opportunity if it landed on their iPad or their free lunch.

    I have no sympathy for them but I support their right to assmeble peacefully and protest the color of lawn grass if they like.
     
  5. Bigdog57

    Bigdog57 Adventurer at large

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    THEY are NOT 99%. And they do NOT speak for me. I do NOT support this silly and ill-thought out scam. George Soros, SEIU and the other usual suspects of the Socialist World are backing and pushing this event.

    There are better ways to get one's needs heard than making a filthy spectacle of oneself. THIS is no the way to do it. It marginalizes any relelvance they may have had. They are simply tools who do not know they are being used.
     
  6. Immolatus

    Immolatus Just getting started. Always.

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    I will have to say that I see more vehemence from the right towards these people, who are everyday Americans, who seem to be asking for the same thing that C, BAC, AIG, GM etc etc got when they were in trouble than towards those companies themselves.
    Why is that?
     
  7. TheAnt

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    Those companies dont deserve anything from the gov't either. There is nothing American about those companies getting bailed out just like there is nothing American about those blood suckers protesting for more handouts.
     
  8. PopPop

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    Please dont include me in the 99%. We are struggeling but do not endorse the collectivist solution. The bank bailouts were the wrong thing to do and have caused all of us to suffer to some degree and this 99%ers occupation should have been expected and probably was even desired. We are on course for the destruction of the republic and that will not benefit anyone.
     
  9. mikesolid

    mikesolid Mobile Bug-Out-Bag-Man

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    These "protests" are filled with little immature people who have NO idea what they are protesting.

    And just think about it. It only takes ONE...I STRESS THE WORD ONNNNNNNE...ONE OF THESE IDIOTS TURNS VIOLENT AND THE REST WILL FOLLOW SUIT. THEIR MINDLESS LITTLE COLLEGE TEENY BOPPERS THAT ARE "PROTESTING" TO BE TRENDY.

    It's happened here. "occupy iowa"...Just in a matter of days they've protested over ATLEAST 5 different things. unorganized, bored, little teenagers is all they are. (I'm saying this as a "young" person myself....But I know which way is up and which way is down.) they even had the NERVE to start trashing the police because they were "violent"...all that happened was their permit to stay was up and the police asked them to leave...THEY WOULDN'T (WHICH IS CALLED TRESPASSING, WHICH IS CALLED ILLEGAL)...The police arrested people...EVIDENTLY, WE WHO FOLLOW LAWS AND UPHOLD THEM, (according to these hip protestors) ARE "VIOLENT"

    THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT. NOT. NOT. NOT PROUD-HARD-WORKING AMERICANS.




    sorry for the caps....it's been pissing me off since it started.
     
  10. TheAnt

    TheAnt Aesops Ant (not Aunt)

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    Well said!
     
  11. Salekdarling

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    I agree. I guess I'm not one of those folks if I'm not whining to get free everything. Like I said before, I take responsibility for my debts. It's not like I'll wake up tomorrow and the Government will say, "Sorry for making you pay! Your slate is wiped clean!"

    That'd be cool though. Not going to happen!
     
  12. dahur

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    No they don't....but they DID get the money didn't they? So they could afford to pay their CEO's their huge compensation packages that were previously contracted for. The American taxpayer sure got screwed on that one, so the fat cats could get theirs.
     
  13. Ezmerelda

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    I've only read about 2 dozen of the posts by these people and it seems to me that they should be "Occupying College Campuses" because their biggest beef seems to be that they were "tricked" into taking out enormous student loans for "worthless" degrees.

    If, as it seems, that's their biggest beef, then they should be occupying the guidance counselor's office instead of Wall Street.

    I made a similar bad decision, took out student loans to get a business degree from one of the largest degree mills in the country, but you won't see me protesting on Wall Street or any where else.

    I made the bad decision, and as an adult, it's my responsibility to learn from it and move on...AND pay off my student loan, even if that means working at McDonald's until it's paid off.
     
  14. JayJay

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    Great topic, great posts...but has anyone actually thought what could have happened if that TARP money was issued to each state and used for jobs??
    15,740,000,000 for each state would have gotten this nation producing again...I know; screw China and their trade agreement.

    15 billion, 740 million for each state...but no, it was given to other nations and tucked away in someone's offshore bank accounts.
    There will be blood before this is over. For every county in ky, 131 million dollars would have gone a long way.
     
  15. Salekdarling

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    I don't think any of this will truly be over. I just have that gut feeling that this is all going to just snowball into something more major then we can all expect. I pray that isn't the case.

    I haven't really paid attention to the media as of late. (I've been practically living at my job for two weeks straight) When I do check media websites, I don't see much media coverage on Occupy Wall Street. Must not be much of a big deal to the media.:dunno:
     
  16. Maxbeard

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    I find the protest to be high comedy. One disaffected youth, when asked who he wanted for the next president said Mao Zedong. Mao would have run all these dumb sh#ts over with a tank like Tienamin Square.
     
  17. texas_red

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    I think you just hit it over the fence. :congrat:
     
  18. efbjr

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    Here, in Rhode Island, the legislature would have have whizzed it away before the ink dried on the check! :gaah:
     
  19. BillS

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    The Wall Street protesters are ignorant anti-capitalists who've been brainwashed by their Marxist college professors. They're being funded by groups friendly to the Democrats.

    If they really wanted to do something constructive they'd march on the White House. 1. Demand that Obama fire everyone of his people who cheated on their taxes or was behind in paying them.
    2. Demand that the people who bundled toxic mortgages and those who rated them AAA all be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
    3. Demand that the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac regulators be prosecuted. Investigate both agencies fully and prosecute everyone who committed crimes. Those who are also responsible but can't charged with crimes should be banned from ever working for the government again.
    4. Kick out all the members of the house and senate who opposed Bush's call for more oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Kick out everyone who got campaign contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
    5. Change government rules regarding student loans. Make loans subject to bankruptcy laws. Suspend interest charges for people below a certain income level. Make the maximum payment be 10% of gross income.
    6. Freeze government spending to 2008 levels and make no adjustments for inflation.
     
  20. Jezcruzen

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    It surprises me that even some of you here just don't get it. Why are some of you so upset with the companies that got the bailouts or the lavish bonuses given to a number of CEOs and now want THEM punished in some way? Why are you not directing your anger towards those who engineered all this mayhem - the politicians like Bawwney Frank and Chris Dodd. They are responsible for the housing mess. Why are these two not in prison already?

    How about the revolving door between some of these companies and Obama's staff? Moving back and forth, from private corporations and government, looting the public as they go! None of this crap could have happened without the collusion of government criminals like Geithner, Obama, Jarret, Axelrod, Holder, and the bevy of communists Obama has appointed throughout government, including 39 unconstitutional czars that are not accountable to anyone but HIM?

    It not capitalism. Its not the free market system. Its certainly not the Constitution or the foundation upon which this nation was built. It criminal activity that has moved from the back allies of Chicago right into the White House infused with a mainline drip of communism and radical islam. Unfortunately, the uneducated, the ignorant, the easily manipulated, and the gullible have swallowed hook, line, and sinker that its the American economic system thats at fault while the perpetrators continue to laugh and stuff even more into their pockets.

    Listen, what has happened here is nothing short of treason. Its not enough that some of these criminals might be voted out of office. They only take their "winnings" with them and resurface at one of the corporations that used them. This is TREASON! The guilty must be discovered. They must be charged, arrested, prosecuted, and, if convicted, executed. Will it happen? Hell no! No one wants to stand up. No one wants to become a target. No one wants to be set upon, lied about, and possibly ruined. But, one time long ago there were a group of men who knew what the score was and the odds of failure. Even so, they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to each other and to the struggle of independence and individual freedom. But YAWH is a just God. He poured His blessings on that earlier group. I fear He is pouring his wraith on us now, and we deserve it!