want to become a criminal? plant a garden!

Discussion in 'International Current News & Events' started by The_Blob, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

    Campaign For Liberty — HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

    HR 875 Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor. One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it. As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying. Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation. Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.

    I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers. This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed. It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it. It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods. If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed. That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.

    DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF. The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share. Post your observations and insights below. Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.

    Pay special attention to

    Section 3 which is the definitions portion of the bill-read in it's entirety.
    section 103, 206 and 207- read in it's entirety.
    Red flags I found and I am sure there are more...........

    Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food police for the federal dept.
    Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn't actually use the word organic.
    Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming it.
    Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game.
    Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how long the legislation is.
    Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side with?
    Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more.
    Section 207 requires that the state's agriculture dept act as the food police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and is in violation of the 10th amendment.
    There are many more but by the time I got this far in the legislation I was so alarmed that I wanted to bring someone's attention to it. (to the one person who reads my blog)
    Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply? Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?

    Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food. What is that called? It is on the tip of my tongue..........

    I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version.
  2. Herbalpagan

    Herbalpagan Well-Known Member

    After reading this and the Senate bill, I see that it specifically dis-includes home use gardens from this. The purpose of this bill is to track food items, both from foreign sources and Ameican growers so that we do not have another spinach or peanut incident.
    It is worrying from the stand point of the small to medium grower as it will require some electronic equipment and better record keeping. Those kinds of restrictions are very hard on the growers. However, I repeat, it specifically says that this is for food intended for others that the home grower. The penalties for the other people look to be standard.

  3. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

    WHAT HR did you read, Herbal? just these few 'definitions' should be enough to make you PUKE over this fascist crap

    (5) CATEGORY 1 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 1 food establishment’ means a food establishment (other than a seafood processing establishment) that slaughters, for the purpose of producing food, animals that are not subject to inspection under the Federal Meat Inspection Act or poultry that are not subject to inspection under the Poultry Products Inspection Act.

    this means MY house, where I raise MY pigs, to slaughter & eat

    (8) CATEGORY 4 FOOD ESTABLISHMENT- The term ‘category 4 food establishment’ means a food establishment that processes all other categories of food products not described in paragraphs (5) through (7).

    this means ANYTHING not covered in other definitions

    (12) FOOD- The term ‘food’ means a product intended to be used for food or drink for a human or an animal and components thereof.

    greeeaaat! I'm SO happy that the GRASS I feed my cow can now be micromanaged by a government stooge

    (14) FOOD PRODUCTION FACILITY- The term ‘food production facility’ means any farm, ranch, orchard, vineyard, aquaculture facility, or confined animal-feeding operation.

    once again... MY home

    Sorry to come off as pissy, but I live in Ohio... & the 'food police' have been trying to ride roughshod over everybody for a year now, probably longer, but now it's actually come to my attention... I'm hoping to work for change when I'm old enough to run for office, but until then... guess I'm just forced to talk to people who can VOTE!
    The intended/stated purpose & what they will actually be able to DO under this abomination, as worded, are two completely different things (read Patriot Act)

    GovTrack: H.R. 875: Text of Legislation, Introduced in House
  4. Herbalpagan

    Herbalpagan Well-Known Member

    While I agree that the bill is ambivilent in who and what they are talking about, I believe it was meant for larger scale operations and never intended to limit the home gardener who cans their produce. I can see where you might jump to that conclusion though.
    I will be writing to my reps and suggesting that the wording is such that it could possibly include the home pantry as well as businesses. I hope that everyone will do so as well.
    In the Senate version that I read, it does say specifically that it is not for people who preserve food for themselves. However, as I said, it is vague enough that some over zealous government person could misinterpret and cause a lot of problems. (see the headlines: "Family looses entire harvest to idiot who thought the law meant Grandma's jam & pickles");)
  5. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

    It is my hope that this was NOT done intentionally, but with the current trends it is also my fear that it WAS... :(
  6. TechAdmin

    TechAdmin Administrator Staff Member

    It's bills like this that are supposed to fix in one area that end up hurting another area, usually the small business owner. It's like the Lead Toy Act that is shutting down Mom and Pop operations.