Well, I found a new Jacob ram and all I can say is... he is ... ugllllly! I hope it was just the pictures. (but don't hold out much hope! ) lol He need to be sheered and that may help. (but I don't think so) He is from the Butter Island, Maine flock ... which I had "NO clue what that was" and had to do a search. From what I found it was a flock of sheep that went feral on the island ... and only the strong made it. They were sheered once a year (if they could get them in the lot) other than that they had no human contact for many, many years. So we go and give him a good look over and pick him up some time the first of next week.