Try Not To Puke When You Read This

Discussion in 'General Food and Foraging Discussion' started by IrritatedWithUS, Jun 16, 2011.

  1. IrritatedWithUS

    IrritatedWithUS Well-Known Member

    If you read the ingredients label on a loaf of bread, you will usually find an ingredient listed there as L-cysteine. This is a non-essential amino acid added to many baked goods as a dough conditioner in order to speed industrial processing. It's usually not added directly to flour intended for home use, but you'll find it readily in commercial breads such as pizza dough, bread rolls and pastries.

    While some L-cysteine is directly synthesized in laboratories, most of it is extracted from a cheap and abundant natural protein source: human hair. The hair is dissolved in acid and L-cysteine is isolated through a chemical process, then packaged and shipped off to commercial bread producers. Besides human hair, other sources of L-cysteine include chicken feathers, duck feathers, cow horns and petroleum byproducts.

    Most of the hair used to make L-cysteine is gathered from the floors of barbershops and hair salons in China.

    While the thought of eating dissolved hair might make some people uneasy, most Western consumers ultimately have no principled objections doing so. For Jews and Muslims, however, hair-derived L-cysteine poses significant problems. Muslims are forbidden from eating anything derived from a human body, and many rabbis forbid hair consumption for similar reasons. Even rabbis who permit the consumption of hair would forbid it if it came from corpses -- and since much L-cysteine comes from China, where sourcing and manufacturing practices are notoriously questionable, this is a real concern. In one case, a rabbi forbade the consumption of L-cysteine because the hair had been harvested during a ritual at a temple in India.

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    More proof: Cysteine is an α-amino acid with the chemical formula HO2CCH(NH2)CH2SH. It is a non-essential amino acid, which means that it is biosynthesized in humans.
  2. worldengineer

    worldengineer Well-Known Member

    Looks like someone else is an avid reader of natural news. Back to topic.

    Its disgusting, it's hard to believe the US lets this mess in. Have you read the thing about human excrement as a meat product?

  3. IrritatedWithUS

    IrritatedWithUS Well-Known Member

    It's all disgusting. And they worry about lead in toys....pffft!!
  4. JayJay

    JayJay Well-Known Member

    Hi, Irritated--I'm extremely irritated..I'll try to make this short..

    I know we all try to buy USA made...dh was helping me get my pjs and stuff together after bath (I broke 3 toes in foot:cry:--hard to take a bath without help; safety reasons) and I was, in prepping, I have been buying 10 0r 20 of the same items for ever...getting ready.
    I noticed the lotion was made in, not wanting to put that on my face, asked for another lotion in the bath room:eek:...well, made in china also.
    I vowed that even though I have too many hygiene, paper products, etc to discard, from that moment on, no more china.:rolleyes:
    Later, I'm getting ready for bed, get my book ready, lights down, and notice a label on the walker and start reading ....made in china:eek: again!!
    Okay, I'm pizzed---why do we have medical devices not made in USA??:nuts:


    And trust me--I really budget for our preps---I really sacrifice for our preps.
    I do without for our preps.:rolleyes:

    God bless...JayJay
  5. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

    and now... for the rest... of the story...

    Although classified as a non-essential amino acid, cysteine is essential for infants, the elderly, and individuals with certain metabolic disease or who suffer from malabsorption syndromes. Cysteine can usually be synthesized by the human body under normal physiological conditions if a sufficient quantity of methionine is available. Cysteine is catabolized in the gastrointestinal tract and blood plasma. In contrast, cystine travels safely through the GI tract and blood plasma and is promptly reduced to the two cysteine molecules upon cell entry.

    Cysteine is found in most high-protein foods, including:

    Animal sources: pork, sausage meat, chicken, turkey, duck, luncheon meat, eggs, milk, whey protein, ricotta, cottage cheese, yogurt
    Plant sources: red peppers, garlic, onions, broccoli, brussels sprouts, oats, granola, wheat germ, lentils

    Cysteine was once obtained industrially by hydrolysis of human hair, but in recent years 85% is produced from duck feathers. Due to marketing restraints with Jewish Kosher and Muslim Halal however, it is now possible to get synthetically produced material, albeit at a higher price. The synthetic route involves fermentation utilizing a specialized form of E. coli. With a different technology, L-cysteine is produced by the hydrolysis of racemic 2-amino-Δ2-thiazoline-4-carboxylic acid using Pseudomonas thiazolinophilum.

    Cysteine is required by sheep in order to produce wool: it is an essential amino acid which must be taken in as food from grass. As a consequence, during drought conditions, sheep stop producing wool; however, transgenic sheep which can make their own cysteine have been developed. ( :eek: oh nos! Frankenwool ! :rolleyes: )

    Cysteine has been proposed as a preventative or antidote for some of the negative effects of alcohol, including liver damage and hangover. It counteracts the poisonous effects of acetaldehyde, which is the major by-product of alcohol metabolism and is responsible for most of the negative aftereffects and long-term damage associated with alcohol use (but not the immediate effects of drunkenness). Cysteine supports the next step in metabolism, which turns acetaldehyde into the relatively harmless acetic acid. In a rat study, test animals received an LD50 dose of acetaldehyde (the amount which normally kills half of all animals). Those that received cysteine had an 80% survival rate; when both cysteine and thiamine were administered, all animals survived. There is not yet direct evidence for or against its effectiveness in humans who consume alcohol at normal levels.

    The cysteine thiol group is nucleophilic and easily oxidized. The reactivity is enhanced when the thiol is ionized, and cysteine residues in proteins have pKa values close to neutrality, so are often in their reactive thiolate form in the cell. Because of its high reactivity, the thiol group of cysteine has numerous biological functions.

    N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) is a derivative of cysteine wherein an acetyl group is attached to the nitrogen atom. This compound is sold as a dietary supplement commonly claiming antioxidant and liver protecting effects. NAC is often used as a cough medicine because it breaks up the disulfide bonds in the mucus and thus liquefies it, making it easier to cough up. It is also this action of breaking disulfide bonds that makes it useful in thinning the abnormally thick mucus in Cystic Fibrosis patients. NAC is also used as a specific antidote in cases of acetaminophen overdose.

    Disulfide bonds play an important role in the folding and stability of some proteins, usually proteins secreted to the extracellular medium.[8] Since most cellular compartments are reducing environments, disulfide bonds are generally unstable in the cytosol with some exceptions as noted below.

    Disulfide bonds in proteins are formed by oxidation of the thiol groups of cysteine residues. The other sulfur-containing amino acid, methionine, cannot form disulfide bonds. More aggressive oxidants convert cysteine to the corresponding sulfinic acid and sulfonic acid. Cysteine residues play a valuable role by crosslinking proteins, which increases the rigidity of proteins and also functions to confer proteolytic resistance (since protein export is a costly process, minimizing its necessity is advantageous). Inside the cell, disulfide bridges between cysteine residues within a polypeptide support the protein's tertiary structure. Insulin is an example of a protein with cystine crosslinking, wherein two separate peptide chains are connected by a pair of disulfide bonds.

    Protein disulfide isomerases catalyze the proper formation of disulfide bonds; the cell transfers dehydroascorbic acid to the endoplasmic reticulum, which oxidises the environment. In this environment, cysteines are, in general, oxidized to cystine and are no longer functional as a nucleophiles.

    Beyond the iron-sulfur proteins, many other metal cofactors in enzymes are bound to the thiolate substituent of cysteinyl residues. Examples include zinc in zinc fingers and alcohol dehydrogenase, copper in the blue copper proteins, iron in cytochrome P450, and nickel in the [NiFe]-hydrogenases. The thiol group also has a high affinity for heavy metals, so that proteins containing cysteine, such as metallothionein, will bind metals such as mercury, lead, and cadmium tightly

    Cysteine is an important source of sulfide in human metabolism. The sulfide in iron-sulfur clusters and in nitrogenase is extracted from cysteine, which is converted to alanine in the process.
  6. Emerald

    Emerald Well-Known Member

    I am an avid label reader and I often search what most of the unpronounceable words are and have know about this for quite awhile...
    Have you looked to see what the color red(dyes) are made from? One is made from crushed beetles...
    The things that we ingest cuz we all have to have our food look pretty.:rolleyes:
    I make my own breads and other stuff now due to my allergies to all the weird food additives that companies just think we have to have.
  7. Magus

    Magus Scavenger deluxe

    Suddenly I'm glad I'm glucose intolerant...

    anybody see the article on cheese made with human breast milk?
  8. IrritatedWithUS

    IrritatedWithUS Well-Known Member

    I hate China! I was drinking Juicy Juice brand 100% juice....looked at the back, Product of China
  9. kejmack

    kejmack Texas!!!

    Just another reason I cook everything from scratch!!!
  10. Meerkat

    Meerkat Seeking The Truth


    Made in USA only means it put together here.All the parts usually come from China and other nations.

    Even the 'Atlantic' Salmon can be from China if it was packed her.The name of the game is deceprtion.

    But we will keep skipping along.Don't worry ,be happy.
  11. Dove150

    Dove150 Well-Known Member

    Gag, errrp, spit..errp..spit, gag....:eek:
  12. gypsysue

    gypsysue The wanderer

    Oh, jeez. I guess we really need to make as many things ourselves as we can.

    *shakes head sadly*
  13. Meerkat

    Meerkat Seeking The Truth


    Good site Irritatedwithus.I could visit without any problems.Are you member of the site? Wonder if it could help thse with medical alternatives when TSHTF?

    I had read years ago that laetrel is a derivitive of apricots,peaches are in the same family.

    I heard a couple decades ago the mayor of Atlanta went to Mexico to get cancer treatment with laetrel'spell' because he could'nt gt it here.Massel was his name I think.

    Also after reading this I bought some bread flour to make our own.I will need help from yall to do that though.

    Wonder who or what i just ate in this peppermint patty?So much for a turkey bacon and tomato sandwich.
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2011
  14. BillM

    BillM BillM


    There went my sandwich !
  15. Sentry18

    Sentry18 Well-Known Member

    I'm with Meerkat on this one. Made in America is just a gimmick nowadays. It is very hard to tell if a product was actually made here in the US, with American parts and by American hands. A French company can open a small shop in California, import a pre-fashioned blade from China, a wooden handle from the Philippines, some rivets from Indonesia, have an illegal alien assemble it and sell it as an American made knife. That sticker needs to means 100% American made or it means nothing.

    As far as the hair thing goes, I think people are over-reacting. Do you know how much nasty stuff you eat? Do you know what disgruntled factory workers put into your food? Unless it is some kind of cancer causing chemical I say ignorance is bliss. I have 3 dogs and 7 kids; I bet a lot of hair is consumed in my house. :)
  16. lilmissy0740

    lilmissy0740 Well-Known Member

    Thanks, that was some good info.

    I try to buy Made in the USA also, but that doesn't always mean it is good. There are plenty of countries that won't even take our grains because of them being gmo.
    We know a couple that buys everything in a box. They buy those pb&j frozen sandwiches and sausage and pancakes on a stick. We looked up the ingredients, WOW. If you do, you wont eat one of those again. Also, shredded cheese has some kind of saw dust in it as the anti caking agent. Even if something has berries in it like cereals, hmm no berries to be found. If you think the powers to be are looking out for your health and well being, you better think again. They want cheap ingredients so they can make more money.
  17. Magus

    Magus Scavenger deluxe

    Anybody see the GMO potatoes with human genes?
    Cannibalism by degrees.
  18. 8thDayStranger

    8thDayStranger Well-Known Member

    Here's the list of allowances of rodent hair, bugs, mold etc... the FDA has allowed companies to get away with in foods. If you only knew exactly what's in the food you buy.

    Too long to copy paste the whole thing.


    Some of the entries

    ALLSPICE, GROUND Insect Filth
    (AOAC 981.21) Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 10 grams
    Rodent filth
    (AOAC 981.21) Average of 1 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams
    DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - pre/post harvest and processing insect infestation. Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta
    SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

    (AOAC 969.41) Average of 225 insect fragments or more per 225 grams in 6 or more subsamples
    Rodent filth
    (AOAC 969.41) Average of 4.5 rodent hairs or more per 225 grams in 6 or more subsamples
    DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - preharvest and/or post harvest and/or processing infestation. Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta
    SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

    (AOAC 967.24) Average of over 20 or more maggots of any size per 100 grams of drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
    Average of 5 or more maggots 2 mm or longer per 100 grams of drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
    (AOAC 967.24) Average of 75 mites per 100 grams drained mushrooms and proportionate liquid or 15 grams of dried mushrooms
    (MPM-V100) Average of more than 10% of mushrooms are decomposed
    DEFECT SOURCE: Insects - preharvest insect infestation, Mites - preharvest and/or post harvest infestation, Decomposition - preharvest infection
    SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

    OREGANO, CRUSHED Insect filth
    (AOAC 969.44) Average of 300 or more insect fragments per 10 grams
    Rodent filth
    (AOAC 969.44) Average of 2 or more rodent hairs per 10 grams
    DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - preharvest and/or post harvest and/or processing insect infestation, Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta
    SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic
  19. biobacon

    biobacon Track Layer

    Ok SO im not down with Human Hair but as far as crushed feathers and beetles go, no issue there. If I can eat a pig I can eat a beetle. I love pepperoni and I don't want to know what is in that. As in please don't post it LOL