OK I know this has been beaten to death over and over, but here goes again anyway. Maybe a new spin this time? Is there anything out there that could be used for commo gear that DOESN'T require a license that can get a true 30 mile range (not on the open desert, but around urban, and outdoors) , be mobile (vehicle mounted if needed, handheld slave to vehicle if needed), and not cost 10minutes of our deficit interest. Basically what I am looking for is something that has great range so I can talk to and practice our commo opsec now, and when TSHTF we can still have our set comms for when those of our group are geographically removed can contact us when in vicinity. We have several locations setup and none of us have the EXACT location for all of them. So we have to be able to establish comms when in range to get carried into home. For those that have had a few to many or are just slow on the up take, here is what I mean. TSHTF and it's time to bug out. My family and I pack up and get buggin, however when we get to the location that we know about we find out it has been compromised (how doesn't matter here, just play along). So it's time to move on to another area. Well even with our compromised location the bad guys don't have anything to use because all we have is a region. So I live in Virignia Beach and we head west. One of our BOL's is in TN lets say. Well the only thing I know is an area on a map, and a memorized radio freq. We get to the designated area and following op sec we broadcast as preset and wait for response. Once we get a response, we have someone come get us and we follow into safety. So what I am asking for is a radio that we can get that will allow us to do this reasonably well without costing thousands of dollars to get. Or tons of silver, ounces of gold, or to much bartering to make happen.