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Hi all and I thought I would post this article for the point of discussion and for all of us to think of things we may not have and to update our preps as our budget allows :) .

Now lets see if I can do a quote properly :eek: . Okay I know not, so will copy and paste underneath the link.

Here is the link - http://www.all-about-preparedness.com/p/store.html

100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

100 Top Items Disappearing in War or Natural Disaster

Happy prepping.

Sewingcreations15.
 

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I betcha the first to go in our area in New Mexico is any premade convenience food. The majority of our population here is on welfare and do not know how to cook. Our fast food industry makes a ton around here. Most of our students bring premade everything to school for their lunches. Even those premade peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
That's a good list, Sewing Creations.
 

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@AmishHeart and most welcome for the list and you are so right there is so many people who cannot cook and have never learnt or been taught to do it either. I can quite believe that most of the convenience foods would go first off the shelves.

I am shocked that most students even bring premade sandwiches to school from home. It is not hard to make a sandwich and is far cheaper to make it at home rather than them too.
 

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and premade "lunchables". Do you have those in Australia? Not even real cheese in them (see earlier diarrhea post, ha). Terribly overpriced for cut up lunch meat, a few crackers, and fake cheese. The "pizza" and "nacho" ones are even worse.
Hard to believe more are poisoned by these products.

One of the most important things to grow, IMO is potatoes. And so far we have not had a good crop. I want to learn to grow them in big containers but no luck yet. I know all the procedures but something ain't right we are doing.
 

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8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
Use a knife and a fork.

There are so many things on this list can be done with what you already have on hand, or can be easily grown or made with a little knowledge and skill. The second list is much more valuable.

Thanks for posting the list, sewingcreations, but it sounds -- once again -- like somebody who is stocking their cupboard without stocking their brain.
 

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I saw toast for sale in a grocery store.
If someone can't make their own toast they are doomed even in normal times.

I think one of the first thing that will disappear in a true TEOTWAWKI will be outside help.
FEMA will never be able to help everyone and the local authorities are going to be tied up helping their family and friends.
If you can't take care of yourself you will suffer greatly.
 

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Oh the seconds/minutes I have wasted making toast and PB&J. I even read an article saying that the cereal industry was declining because it was too hard to put cereal and milk in a bowl and clean the bowl when you are done.

“Americans don’t necessarily have the time to enjoy a sit-down breakfast anymore and they’re looking for portability,” said Amanda Topper, food analyst at Mintel. “Convenience is more important to parents with lifestyle shifts and hectic day-to-day schedules.”

In addition, “people see eating cereal as time-consuming because it’s not something you can do on the go, like eating a protein bar,” said Rory Masterson, who tracks the industry for IBISWorld.

The desire for convenience seems to be especially pronounced among millennials, the generation aged 18 to 34. When Mintel surveyed consumers about cereal a year ago, 39% of millennials said cereal was inconvenient because you have to clean a dish afterward.
 

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I betcha the first to go in our area in New Mexico is any premade convenience food. The majority of our population here is on welfare and do not know how to cook. Our fast food industry makes a ton around here. Most of our students bring premade everything to school for their lunches. Even those premade peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
That's a good list, Sewing Creations.
White bread (yuck), peanut butter and jelly. The peanut butter is the best nutrition there and they would be better off just eating p.b. out of the jar with a spoon.
Yes, I have had students bring pre-made crustless white bread peanut butter and jelly sandwiches to school, along with their chips and other food that completely lacks nutrition.
In many schools, peanut butter is not allowed now due to so many children having p.b. allergies.

I know that there are many diabetics on the reservations in New Mexico. There was a news program about it on television a number of years ago. The story also talked about the fact that their diet was so overly processed, fried and sugary, and lacked basic nutrition. They would be much better off with a keto type diet, but they prefer to eat pizza, fries, chips, soda, candies, cookies and other junk food.
 

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You are right @Danil54 no bread is mentioned just the ingredients to make it and other items but bearing in mind that most don't know how to make their own bread. Sour dough bread is one I know of that you can start with a starter :).
Can also make a starter using potatoes flakes but same concept. 1 c Water, 1 pk yeast, 1/2 c sugar & 3 T potatoes flakes. Ferment then feed every 3-5 days. I like the sour dough myself and that is what I have in the fridge right now for making bread type things. But this one is a good alternative cause you don't need the milk.

You are right about a lot of people not knowing how to make bread or even cook now days. As mentioned, people rely on convenience foods. I have those for busy days to, but its called preplanning. When cooking at night, just double the recipe and put in freezer. Pull out before you go to work, it will be defrosted by the time you get home. For on the run breakfast, heat up a breakfast burrito from the freezer. These are made at home using excess chicken eggs. It really doesn't take that long, but for some, I guess they are just too busy.

I kinda got a chuckle about storing a bunch of gravy. . . :)
 

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My top few that disappear in an emergency that I've come across in the yearly cyclones are-

#1- Common sense.

#2 - bread and milk and bottled water.

#3 - Fuel of all descriptions. This includes bottled gas and batteries.

#4- Beer. The old timers who are used to cyclones don't race around like a chook with it's head cut off because they've been through this a hundred times before and have already stocked up on shelf stable supplies and have everything squared away. They calmly go to the large bottle stores and stock up on beer for that first cyclone BBQ party of the season and invite their friends and family which goes a fair way towards running down the stock of food in the fridge and freezer.
If there's going to be a disaster then you may as well enjoy yourself while you can.



Here in the North I see it every wet season when the first cyclone is announced.

The "Southerners" race to the shops to stock up on bread and milk!
For real! Two of the least shelf stable things in a modern kitchen and these pinheads are stocking up when, dollars to doughnuts, the cyclone will drop powerlines like matchsticks.
No power to keep that shopping trolley filled with milk and overly squashed bread fresh.
 

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@AmishHeart no we don't have lunchables here in Australia and I am gathering that is something like a plastic like craft cheese in the container ?. So they sell them in

I am even more stunned they sell them and never heard of premade P&B sandwiches (uncrustables I gather are sandwiches with the crusts cut off ?) being sold in the freezer section of the supermarket either @dademoss, news to me :rolleyes: . @backlash news to me on the premade toast too, well if you can't do that you are done for anyway.

We do however have snacks sold in multi packets for children such as individually wrapped muesli bars ( yes you guessed it so much artificial yuck and lots of sugar in them), packets of 6 or so crackers and fake spreadable cheese in containers. They also sell premade sandwiches at mainly service stations or snack bars and now making an appearance in larger shopping centre supermarkets in major towns. Things that stun me is the new trend of selling salad leaves such as lettuce and spinach prewashed in a bag for $30 odd dollars a kilogram and now they are packaging soup mix vegetables such as turnip, swede and 1 carrot in a container with cling wrap for similar prices. What is wrong with people that they can't buy a lettuce or a bunch of spinach and wash it themselves for a far cheaper price ?.

@TheLazyL yes brains comes in top of the list of needed items in an emergency and also as @Tank_Girl so aptly puts it common sense is another big thing to have as well. Not being unkind here but there goes 90% of the population in the first month of a tragedy because if you think any government or agency will save you most are sadly mistaken because you know they will be looking after the 90% who do things like buy their toast.
 

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@Starcreek I agree that many of the things on the list could be substituted with things we all know about and alternative techniques. The list is from an LDS site that more concentrates on stocking pantries and homes and is designed for beginners as well as for some more advanced on their prepping journey. The experience of the Sarajevo survivor is good advice however and is a more realistic appraisal of any situation I feel.
 

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@weedygarden and @AmishHeart I will also agree as in most parts of the world a nutritious diet varies widely according to people's incomes or lack there of. Most of the poorer areas in most countries tend to be congregated into one area or particular suburbs and they are the population that have highly processed artificial colours, flavours and preservatives and sugar in their diets.
 
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