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I was reading the article and noticed the picture of left = tyranny and right = liberty and the coexist sticker in the left side which implies the idea of multiple religions is a form of tyranny when in fact is not the idea of freedom of religion a liberty guaranteed to us as citizens of the U.S.?
 

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The left side of the picture is showing common liberal symbols the article is not saying that coexisting is bad but liberals tend to use as a freedom FROM religion instead of freedom of religion.
 

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The left side of the picture is showing common liberal symbols the article is not saying that coexisting is bad but liberals tend to use as a freedom FROM religion instead of freedom of religion.
But coexisting is not freedom from, but more freedom of.
 

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But coexisting is not freedom from, but more freedom of.
You are correct but as is often the case when used by the liberal factions "coexisting" doesnt mean "coexisting" -- its really just a way for telling one group(s) to shut up and to give preference to another group(s). Its kinda like the Obama health care law having nothing to do with actually providing health care -- its a mask for hiding a huge power grab.

We should coexist. Our founding fathers intended us all to be able to worship as we saw fit providing it doesnt infringe on anyone else right to do the same. That said I will never put one of those stickers on my vehicle because it doesnt mean what it says... it would identify me with a group I do not agree with -- namely liberals.
 

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I can agree with that Ant, but as a non-JDC follower and in particular a Polytheist, I see the flip side, where I am told I will burn in your hell, am evil, worship the devil, etc. all because I honor a different pantheon of Gods than most. A lot of this hate, but not all comes from the right and very rarely the left, which makes me wonder about the true feeling of the right when it comes to freedom of religion.
 

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And me having christian view I am often called a hate monger and a bigot which neither are true. And I am often subject to hateful things because of my beliefs and alot of this hate comes from the left.
 

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I can agree with that Ant, but as a non-JDC follower and in particular a Polytheist, I see the flip side, where I am told I will burn in your hell, am evil, worship the devil, etc. all because I honor a different pantheon of Gods than most. A lot of this hate, but not all comes from the right and very rarely the left, which makes me wonder about the true feeling of the right when it comes to freedom of religion.
Want to see the real hate come out of a lefty,just diasgree with one .Since you agree with them and ae one, why should they hate you?
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And me having christian view I am often called a hate monger and a bigot which neither are true. And I am often subject to hateful things because of my beliefs and alot of this hate comes from the left.
We all witnessed where the real hate comes from at the polls when Obombs was elected.Conservatives were the ones being attacked not the obombs thugs.Want to see some hate,listen to the leftest.
"You want freedom,you gonna have to kill some crackers,you gonna have to kill their babies too"this thug terrorist was not even arrested and his associates are not on the gov terror watch list,only white gun clinging christians and returning vets qualify for that title.
Seems you don't know the people you ally with .
 

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But coexisting is not freedom from, but more freedom of.
What about the other freedom"FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION"?We should have the right to keep you leftest out of our schools with your agendas.We should have the freedom to not have to support your agendas with our tax dollars.
Militant fem jack boots even invaded West Point! They want the same pay,same advancement yet they can't do the same jobs men do.Poor young mislead women over in iraq and afgan now asking for sanitary pads! Why should men have to be expsed to this and take up their slack?You call this freedom?Why are all those on the front lines on recon and speacial ops men?
Women caused a lot of unessasry deaths in this illegal wars.The woman in charge of Abu Grabi was'nt even reprimanded!But the grunts under her command paid dearly.
Theres something upsetting about a mother bombing and killing then landing on the carrier and giving a high five to the crew.Just my opinion of course.
 

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Want to see the real hate come out of a lefty,just diasgree with one .Since you agree with them and ae one, why should they hate you?
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:confused: What makes you think I am liberal? I am Libertarian.
 

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Asatrur, your points are all spot on. I really think it was just an unfortunate choice on the graphic designer's part. There's also a peace sign on the left, although peace itself isn't indicative of tyranny, either. I just think that particular bumper sticker was used because it's typically used by liberals, and they're trying to illustrate a liberalism-slides-to-socialism-slides-to-tyranny concept. They might have been better off using symbols of little government and symbols of big government to illustrate their idea.

As to that particular bumper sticker, I think the reason most conservatives steer clear of it isn't because they don't believe in coexistense among religions, but rather because of the insinuation associated when liberals say there must be coexistense - 'as long as you believe what I believe, then you're open-minded and enlightened, but if you don't believe what I believe then you're closed-minded and a neanderthal.'

I find it interesting how we both experience hate (or at the least, disdain) when it comes to our faiths, yet we experience it from different sides. Which is so very sad. We shouldn't experience it from either side.
 

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:confused: What makes you think I am liberal? I am Libertarian.
Lol, I bet that doesnt happen very often.
I am also a Libertarian.
I only get called a liberal by conservatives when I talk about this and that being legalized. Shows the hypocrisy of someone who says they are for smaller gubt, but want them to regulate peoples private lives, as long as it doesnt conflict with their own personal view of 'morality'. Then it has to be stopped.
 

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There's a lot of hate and prejudice coming from both sides in this country. And judging from the above comments, there are at least a few people trying to really understand what's happening and asking thoughtful questions, not just spewing out accusations and labels.

Thank you, Asatrur and Ant, for demonstrating a civil interaction between people with opposing views; and lex, as usual, you are very astute and wise beyond your years.
 

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There's a lot of hate and prejudice coming from both sides in this country. And judging from the above comments, there are at least a few people trying to really understand what's happening and asking thoughtful questions, not just spewing out accusations and labels.

Thank you, Asatrur and Ant, for demonstrating a civil interaction between people with opposing views; and lex, as usual, you are very astute and wise beyond your years.
I guess your right,why not be nice to the drug pushers and terrorist,maybe invite some of the 'Flash mobs'to a bar b que.

I edited this post,it was not worded right and even being sarcastic it was over the top.
 

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I think that the problem which most conservatives (read "Republicans") have with the concept of Libertarianism is that too many of them look at the extreme side of it, which is essentially anarchy. This leads them to lump it with other far-left concepts and categorize it as a "liberal" idea. Libertarianism, as I understand the modern and common variation in this country, boils down to being "pro-choice" on pretty much everything and that the government should exist only to defend it's people. Am I correct? I can see the allure in that concept. I *personally* feel that that is overly simplified and slightly naive, but that is just my perspective.
 

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Thank you gypsysue.
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I like to think of the tea party as a conservative/libertarian party. This is where I would put my self on the political scale.
 

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as I understand the modern and common variation in this country, boils down to being "pro-choice" on pretty much everything and that the government should exist only to defend it's people. Am I correct? I can see the allure in that concept. I *personally* feel that that is overly simplified and
slightly naive, but that is just my perspective.
That is what Libertarianism is to me. Defend our physical borders only and the rest is up to the states and local governments.
 

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Thank you gypsysue.
:)

I like to think of the tea party as a conservative/libertarian party. This is where I would put my self on the political scale.
Could be, but most of the visible TP "members" in D.C. are too conservative for my tastes having views on gay issues, imperialism, tax breaks for big business, etc. which is not Libertarian at all. I put members in quotes since they are not what the real TP party represents which I believe is Taxed enough already.
 
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