Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by allen_idaho, Nov 7, 2009.

  1. Yes

    0 vote(s)
  2. No

    34 vote(s)
  3. I Don't Know

    1 vote(s)
  4. I would never give up!

    32 vote(s)
  5. I'm already a disaster survivor

    4 vote(s)
  1. allen_idaho

    allen_idaho Well-Known Member

    Disaster strikes. Thousands die. Your friends. Your family. Your favorite pet, Scruffy. Your home and all your Earthly possessions. All gone. The dust has finally begun to settle and you are still alive.

    So do you think you would do it?

    A recent study has discovered a significant hike in suicides after a major catastrophe of any kind. Many survivors suffer from a combination of post-traumatic stress, depression, and survivor's guilt. On average, suicide rates increase by anywhere from 20-60% depending on the severity of the disaster.

    What if you were alive but you were cold, alone, and starving to death? Would you do it then?

    What if you come out on the other side of this disaster paralyzed from the waist down.
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2009
  2. Jason

    Jason I am a little teapot

    This is a charming scenario...

    This forum is for those who want to SURVIVE. To hoarde, cache, study, learn, and then eat a bullet is contrary to my mentality. I'm not knocking the poll, just stating my logic. That is some tough food for thought.

  3. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

    At this time, I do not believe that I can truthfully answer that poll.

    When it is my time to go, I would prefer to go by my own hand or in my own bed. If I realize that I am a burden to others and that I have nothing more to give - yes - I would be wiling to become hamburger.

    I am not afraid of death, I am not afraid of pain, I am not afraid to live ... each has its place in a persons life. My only goal in life is to reach the end with honor - and - how that end happens, I would prefer to have a say in it.
  4. allen_idaho

    allen_idaho Well-Known Member

    Yes, we all want to survive. But this is harsh reality. The purpose of this poll was to simply pose the question to you members so you may prepare yourselves mentally for the future. I know that you can not really give an honest answer until the time has come.

    But this is what happens. It can affect anyone. From soldiers to doctors to your next door neighbor. I'm not saying you should give up. I'm saying that you should be open to the possibility that no matter how prepared you try to be, things may not go according to plan. You could lose everyone and everything you hold dear in the blink of an eye. And you need to be ready for it.

    My hope is that you will seriously think about the question. And in doing so, you will find the strength to survive if the unexpected does happen.

    I apologize for the depressing question. But I really feel it is an important one to ponder.
  5. sinbad

    sinbad Well-Known Member

    I clicked (no) but really don't know the difference between (no) and ( will not give up )

    I mentioned sometimes ( testing yourself) and I think small disasters can tell us a great deal about ourselves and hwo we would react a to a major one. Now if smaller disasters like family problems or such are any indication, I seem to be a better person during 'hard times' that in 'normal times'. I become focused, alert , almost deaf to the whining and negative waves around me, set a priority scale, and generally strive for a practical solution.

    I think, and hope, to be OK in a bad situation.
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2009
  6. bunkerbob

    bunkerbob Supporting Member


    Go into the lampshade business...;) like Naekid and I.
  7. Canadian

    Canadian Well-Known Member

    I'm no quitter.
  8. Riverdale

    Riverdale Well-Known Member

    Hell, I've been DIVORCED, what's a lil ol natural disaster gonna do to me? :)

    Seriously, I lost my house, a truck, every thing I had worked for a decade (plus I have just a tad over 1 year left to pay child support {a grand total of over $125K all together over the course of 14 years} plus my credit was shot due to the ex running up bills and just being divorced).

    I'll get by. ;)
  9. Skeeter

    Skeeter Well-Known Member

    I'm with you. One dead ex, (not my fault), one divorced , and currently married. If I was gonna bite the bullet I'd have done it by now.:scratch Maybe my shrink is right:D
  10. kyfarmer

    kyfarmer Well-Known Member

    I,am on my third which was my first and i haven't pulled the trigger yet, your dang right i,am a survivor for sure. Nope if it was man made i'd track it down to the ends of the earth and skin it alive. If it was natural i'd still do my best to make it. Quit? HELL NO!!
  11. sailaway

    sailaway Well-Known Member

    Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, NO WAY!!!! :nuts:
    Freedoms just another word for nothing left to loose!!!! Look at all the Jews who survived the concentration camps, they all started over again with nothing and some fared quite well.
  12. UncleJoe

    UncleJoe Well-Known Member

    Nice reference. :)
  13. Tammy

    Tammy Guest

    No matter what happens it has happened to you for a reason. God has a plan for all of us and suicide is not the answer. Times get tough so that we can turn to god to help us. If i were to lose my family and child yeah it would hurt me, but killing myself wouldn't be the answer because i wouldnt end up with them. It's a sin to take anyones life and that includes yourself.
  14. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

    This really opens up a whole can-o-worms ... there is that DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) order that many people are putting into LivingWills. I personally would prefer to be "let go" instead of brought-back if it means that my quality-of-life would royally suck.
  15. Watcat49

    Watcat49 New Member

    To Be or Not to Be????

    Well, "suicide" is never the answer. Life always goes on. I have had many up's and down's in my, "Life". I am still here, many of my friends and family are not some are. I feel untill your life over by causes other than your own, and that you cannot control, why give up.

    I do not say this based on any religous belief, or fear of "Sin", I feel I am ultimatley resposible for my own action's and survival in this Life!

    Your's; Watcat49
  16. TechAdmin

    TechAdmin Administrator Staff Member

    Interesting question. I'm going with the no because I really would love to be all alone and self reliant.
  17. Tammy

    Tammy Guest

    It is different if your on your death bed and the lord wants to take you home and your ready to go, then why would you want someone to bring you back. it's not the same thing as going out and trying to kill yourself by your own hands. I would rather not be resuscitated if i'm going to die then it is my time dont be selfish and try to keep me here when i'd be better off gone.
  18. TimB

    TimB Member

    I went with never give up but to be honest, could any one of us say what we would really do in that situation? I know I would be devastated by the loss of my wife or one of my children, much less all of them. If it did happen, I know the Good Lord would have a good reason for leaving me here. That said, I pray that I never have to find out. And I agree about DNR- my wife and family understands this also. If I can't take care of myself, just let me go. I will not be a burden to anyone.

  19. edmondsonpr

    edmondsonpr Member

    Since the question referred specifically to a natural disaster and not a long term personal illness I will keep it confined to natural disasters.

    I recently retired as an active duty airborne crewmember, and we had to attend survival training. It was pounded into us that the single most determining factor in surviving is the WILL TO SURVIVE. Nothing else comes close!

    We were told of the U.S. pilot who crash landed in the remote parts of northern Canada during winter. No towns for hundreds of miles, just a wilderness of trees as far as he could see. He had no broken bones, his survival kit and a loaded .38 which he used to blow his brains out rather than fight for survival.

    The rescue helicopter brought home his lifeless body one day later!

    On the other hand you have the war vets took prisoner in Vietnam and despite the torture, beatings, starving, confinement and being told you're never going home, they still survived years before being released back to America (to be shunned by the idiot civilians). The power of the Will to Live is not to be underestimated. And yes, most had an enduring faith in God.
  20. Brian Jones

    Brian Jones Guest

    Fight to the end! I don't believe in suicide.