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with ivory soap, borax and washing soda. It cleans fine, but the ivory soap pieces are still bunched up / separated / floating in the solution. Is that what it should look like or did I mess something up? I used the liquid recipe here.
 

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We have a recipe that uses Gels Nafta. It would be used in place of the ivory, and we don't have any particles in it at all. If you would like I can post the recipe.
 

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Mine has done that before ... I just put it in a jar with hot water (tap hot) gave it a good shake before putting it in with the wash.
 

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The purpose of making this soap is...what? Less chemicals? I'm all for that! It doesn't sound like it would be cheaper or a good after-TSHTF soap, since you need to buy the things for it. If a person is stocking up on laundry soap anyway, would it be better to stock these ingredients and make the soap down the road, as opposed to buying other laundry soap?
aemilia, didn't you make some goat-milk soap once? Was that bath soap? Can a person use bar-soap like that for laundry soap too?
 

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I've been making the Fels Naphta laundry soap for a year now and it cleans my clothes really, really well--as in it got out some old set in stains from some of my shirts.
I like the smell and the cost is the big factor here.
I add 1/2 bar of the soap grated and one cup of the baking soda, 1 cup of the washing soda and one cup of the borax. I know that I worked it out on another site and the cost per load is about .79¢ I'm not paying for the water that the company adds. And since you have to buy the big boxes of washing soda and the borax you can end up making gallons and gallons of the stuff. I just buy about 4 or 5 bars of fels at a time and you have the makings of laundry soap for a couple years.(if I can find the post where I calculated it all out I will get it and put it here so you can see what I mean, if I could find Zote soap it would be even cheaper)
I even use the bar of the fels for spots- just put the other half of the bar of soap in the bathroom with a small toothbrush(tell everyone what it is so they won't brush their teeth with it lol) and get the toothbrush wet rub a bit of soap into a foam and put on the spot!
If you get into poison ivy use cold water and fels soap and it will remove the arushiol oil and if your lucky no rash(I am not allergic but I have friends who are, but you have to get it off before it starts to rash up).

Now as for using home made soaps- if you can buy that lou-ann type coconut oil and make soap from that it is really good for washing your clothes as it is a bit "harsher" and "less foaming" than other oils for soap making. Don't use your really good coconut oil that stuff is too good for using for soap making!
 

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What is "lou-ann" type coconut oil?

I buy organic food-grade coconut oil in one-gallon buckets for a decent price through our local food co-op, and I let one of my daughters have about a pint of it to make some bath soap for me.

I'd love to find a cheaper type of coconut oil to buy for soaps.
 

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It is in the cooking aisle right along with the nasty ol' crisco stuff! it is hydrogenated so it is not as good for you as the natural press coconut oil. It doesn't even smell like coconuts it is so processed but I have used it in soap and that is how I found out it is low foaming and a bit harsh even tho I aged it for about 4 months.
 

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I don't think hydrogenated is bad if you're using it for soap. I wouldn't ingest it, since I try to avoid hydrogenated stuff. I'll have to look for it next time I'm in a supermarket. Thanks for the info, Emerald.

You mention it doesn't smell like coconuts, but neither does the good organic food-grade coconut oil we buy. Doesn't taste like coconut either.

When you say it's "harsh", in what way? I assume you don't mean the exfoliating-type of harsh, since that would be somewhat desirable in a soap, and even in a laundry soap it might work to help remove dirt from fabric?

Now I'm exposing more ignorance...what does aging the soap do?
 

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One must age/cure soap to complete the saponification (did I spell that right) and less the risk of "free lye".
 

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"saponification"...:scratch

...:dunno:

...off to google I go...

:D

Brought up another screen and went back and forth:

"Saponification is a process by which a fat or an oil is converted into a soap."

Thanks, andi!

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"saponification"...:scratch

...:dunno:

...off to google I go...

:D

Brought up another screen and went back and forth:

"Saponification is a process by which a fat or an oil is converted into a soap."

Thanks, andi!

:)
Sorry to leave you hanging there ... I should have added more to the post but the phone rang ... and one thing and another I just hit submit. (sorry :eek:)
 

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It doesn't sound like it would be cheaper or a good after-TSHTF soap, since you need to buy the things for it. If a person is stocking up on laundry soap anyway, would it be better to stock these ingredients and make the soap down the road, as opposed to buying other laundry soap?
I have started making our laundry detergent also (there is a thread on that here somewhere). The cost breakdown for making your own, depending on your cost for ingredients, breaks down to about .01 to .03 per load. I can not buy pre-made detergent for that price.(Note: these figures I gathered from the web, if I find my receipt, I'll do my own breakdown)

The Borax and washing soda do have other uses for cleaning around the house (kitchen, bathroom, carpets, etc) according to the boxes, which makes them multi-tasking items. I can always use more items that I can use in multiple ways. Less stuff to have to store! And the boxes are easier to stack then those odd shaped bottles:flower:
 

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It's supposed to be much cheaper, and I wanted to try it. When we were first married we played musical-laundry-soap (aka whatever was cheap) and one of us (hubby I think - ha I'm getting O*L*D) ended up reacting to it. So we stuck to the fragrance free stuff, which has gotten expensive (IMHO). I also like to know exactly what is in the soap.

I will look for the fels naptha soap next time. I was hoping to find everything locally and in one store. (That didn't happen, but three stores later we found the washing soda. Yay for the grocery store beating the super wal-mart!)

I tossed a dirty cloth diaper in there, and it came out clean, so I'd say the homemade stuff is as good as the commercial stuff I bought.

What product on the chemistry store were you recommending? It looks like they do body care. I didn't look to closely, the colors seem hard on my eyes today.

Oh, and I made the goat milk soap, which was a bar soap for skin. That was a nice, easy recipe: goat milk, coconut oil, lard, water and sodium hydroxide (lye). I need to make some more.
 

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What product on the chemistry store were you recommending? It looks like they do body care. I didn't look to closely, the colors seem hard on my eyes today.
this makes a good basic laundry cleaning solution

sodium Laural sulfate and triton x 100 each at 1% solution so 2%

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate by The Chemistry Store.com Inc

Triton X-100 at Wholesale Prices

sodium citrate at 7%

Sodium Citrate by The Chemistry Store.com Inc

sodium perborate at 5%

Sodium Perborate by The Chemistry Store.com Inc

meaning that most laundry detergents are 80% or more water

if you really want you can add methyl cellulose like store bought formulations to thicken it making it seem like its more concentrated than it is, the cellulose does help suspend soil in water . the only thing chemistry store doesn't have is enzyme additives for cleaning

Methylcellulose by The Chemistry Store.com Inc
 

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i have used oction soap fels naptha and ivory( only one of these at a time)
with washing soda and 20 mule borix.the way i do it is i put a big pot of water
on to boil while i use a food grader to shave the soap down when the water
is boiling i mix stir in the soap soda and the 20 mule .
stiring till the soap is desolve
then i mix it with enought water to fill a 5 gal bucket
use 1 cup per a load
 

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I make my own soaps,(got some curing now) detergents, bath and body too. A friend of mine who is a latina introduced me to Zote soap years ago for use as a clothes detergent and whitener. I recently ran across some here in the states and bought the large bars at two for a dollar. This stuff is great to add to your homemade detergent recipes. :)
 

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i am almost out of soap and need to make a new batch.
everyone around here doesn't keep red devil lye!!!!
grrrr
 

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i am almost out of soap and need to make a new batch.
everyone around here doesn't keep red devil lye!!!!
grrrr
I find mine at the hardware store ... in the plumbing section.
 
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