Seriously preparing...... I think

Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by faithmarie, May 9, 2011.

  1. faithmarie

    faithmarie mamoo

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    We ... I just killed 58 male meat chickens this week end.... my daughter did two and couldn't do any more... so for her mothers day present I kill the rest. She cleaned them and my younger daughter bagged them and and froze them. My grandsons caught the chickens and brought them to me. It was HORRIBLE. But I did it. My husband called me a murder ... in a loving way..LOL
    As a believer I saw how in the Bible where it says ... without the shedding the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.... sin is so awful it is the cause of the shedding of blood......

    Oh I am so sorry for ranting..... ummm
    So we did chickens and put a new generator with 500 gal liquid propane tank.
    We have 4 cords of wood... is that enough?
    Put a new well in with a hand pump attached. So we have 2 sources of water.
    We bought a whole new bunch of canned tuna and sardines in olive oil. A bunch of canned corn beef hash.... we cant swallow canned ham or spam... but my husband said we will eat a rock if we get hungry enough. He grew up poor. Although they always had food.
    Out of 25 fruit trees we planted last year only 5 survived the winter. I want to splurge and buy bigger trees. I have my dads 22 and my hubby has his shot gun...... so we die. Give me a knife and I can kill anything NOW! LOL
     
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  2. LincTex

    LincTex Jack of all trades?

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    You have a good start - have you thought about canning chicken meat in mason jars? We had both - frozen and canned. Each has advantages. You have to do it properly, though.

    A generator with 500 gallons of propane? Wow!
    Even still, use it sparingly, and only for short perods at a time. Consider getting some deep cycle batteries and a few power inverters so you can have some basic electricity for when the generator isn't running.

    A deep-freeze will stay frozen for all day with a couple jugs of frozen water inside, and no one opening the lid. Look into getting some 12-volt LED lighting. They will still light, even when a bettery is very low - and use very LITTLE electricity. Good lights is one of those "comfort" things I really enjoy. LED do not add heat to the house, which is important in summer in Texas! Candles are good for the winter since they do add heat to the house.

    I am looking for an old chest freezer to convert into a fridge. Stand-up fridges are not insulated well, and let all the cold air out when you open the door. A converted chest freezer works great as a fridge, and is one of the next items on my list :)
     

  3. gypsysue

    gypsysue The wanderer

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    Wow, congrats on butchering the chickens. It's always hard for us to butcher domestic animals. My husband hates to kill something he's fed and looked in the eyes.

    Four cords of wood, that depends on a lot of things. Do you know how much it takes to keep your house warm from one summer to the next? Size and insulation, as well as personal preferred indoor temperature, come into the equation, along with your climate.

    Sorry to hear about your fruit trees dying. When we bought our fruit trees we bought them one zone colder than recommended for our area, hoping that would make them tough enough for our northern mountainous climate. Seven years later they're still alive, but it's taken a lot of effort and care.

    Good luck on future projects! Sounds like you've got a great start!
     
  4. faithmarie

    faithmarie mamoo

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    I was looking Exsheeple's chickens and it looks sooooooooooo unappetizing also I am not brave enough.... I might just be serving botulism if I know me. I would LOVE to be able to do it though.
    The generator only goes on for a few minutes once a month for testing. And it will only go on if the power goes out. And we can regulate it at that point.
    That is a good idea to put bottles of water in the freezers . I didn't know you could convert a freeze into a fridge.
    I have a lot of candles ..... and a couple camp lanterns.

    We have 10 acres and my daughter has 60 acres.
     
  5. mosquitomountainman

    mosquitomountainman I invented the internet. :rofl:

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    Wow, I'm impressed! Try the ham that's canned in "chunks." Usually these are the small cans. 4 cords of wood might be enough in NY but I'd feel better with ten cords. It all depends on how cold and long the winter is, how big your house is, how well insulated, the quality of your stove, how warm you keep the house and whether you want to heat the whole house or just a couple of rooms. You have a good start on firearms, now just be sure you have plenty of ammo for them. When you run the generator be charging batteries. When the batteries are charged, shut off the gen. and run off batteries.

    You're doing great, kep it up!
     
  6. Davo45

    Davo45 New here

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    Good start

    Sounds like you've got a good start to your prepping Marie. As others have said, 4 cords of wood may or may not be enough depending on your situation, but it is certainly a good start.

    The little LED lights are great and safer to use than candles or lanterns indoors....no carbon monozide to worry about. I've seen somebody in another thread mention the little solar driveway lights, put them outside in the sun during
    the day then bring them inside just before dark, they're pretty inexpensive too.

    My sister's power was out for 3 1/2 days following the tornadoes that swept through much of my home State of Alabama. We had gone in together and bought a small freezer, a neighbor bought a generator on day 3 and had enough space in their large freezer for our things. She advised that the items were still pretty much frozen although beginning to turn a bit "slushy". Not bad for 3 days without power.

    That's enough of my rambling for one post.

    Welcome, take care and God bless.
     
  7. LincTex

    LincTex Jack of all trades?

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    The good ones are getting harder to find. Try your best to get the ones that DO NOT have a poured epoxy over the solar panel. (If you can get your fignernail to ctach it, it is epoxy) These get cloudy over a short period of time and stop working. I have some with amorphous silicon under real glass, and those are good for over ten years.

    If you are handy with a soldering iron, you can replace the "clouded" panels with new ones easily and keep the life going on these. I really like the good qulaity solar string lights, as you get multiple bulbs lit up from one solar controller.
     
  8. CulexPipiens

    CulexPipiens Still waiting for the zombies.

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    Google it "converting chest freezer into a fridge". Also http://mtbest.net/chest_fridge_1.pdf

    You are also a step ahead of many in that you killed your own food. Most people I don't think could. They just want to think of the nice sanitized packages of meat in the store and not think back to the source.
     
  9. Clarice

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    Great start Marie. I can get through the butchering process by blanking out the animal and thinking about the children and grandchildren.
     
  10. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

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    :congrat: to you, GREAT start!

    I've never had a propblem killing & butchering, why kill so many at once?
    Did you have too many to manage?
    Are you going to try other methods of preservation, like dehydrating?

    Dollar Tree has solar lights now, & yes they are pretty crappy... but this weekend I was kind of sick so I didn't really feel like doing anything strenuous so I fiddled with some of those. I have found that I can make a three light system with one panel, so I guess that means for every three I buy I have 2 spare panels so it works out OK, not great but OK.
     
  11. LincTex

    LincTex Jack of all trades?

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    You might find the lights will not stay lit as long, due to the increased amperage draw. This is fine if you only need light for a few hours in the evening after the sun goes down and before you go to sleep.

    If you want the light to stay lit all night long, you may need to do the opposite = more panels (wired in series) and possibly more batteries just to keep one light lit all night.

    Good find at the Dollar Tree - that is worth it just to get the rechargeable battery from inside!
     
  12. The_Blob

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    series wiring will give more voltage, parallel wiring gives more amperage

    I should have clarified: one PV cell will charge 3 units simultaneously (in parallel) & then the units will function normally when disconnected. the units have lasted the entire night... I'm thinking my mileage might vary in the winter months tho :dunno:

    one thing to add to a BoB if you think you might be scavenging/repairing electrical devices... 1" alligator clips with 12" 18-22 awg leads

    I use smaller wire because I figure anything bigger will be carrying enough juice that you probably don't want it temp wired
     
  13. LincTex

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    Wow! That is impressive!
    I bought some LED pathlights from Harbor Freight with a coupon a while back... the panels were too small (capacity) with not enough amperage, and would not charge the batteries enough to make the light stay lit all night (which is what I wanted). I ended up having to double up the panels (connected in parallel since measured voltage was high enough) to get enough amps into the batteries in daylight hours to make them work all night. Charging ability/rate/capacity was the weak point there.

    With another brand, the panel size was big enough, but there was only one battery inside, so the weak point was storage capacity. I had to add another battery in parallel to make those stay lit all night.
     
  14. Possumfam

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    The more you "harvest" the less you have to feed. Also, I think it's easier to put them up before shtf.
     
  15. Jason

    Jason I am a little teapot

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    I always say I feel guilty until the animal stops kicking, which isn't long if you kill and butcher as humanely as possible. Once it's dead it's just meat to be processed. As others have said in this thread already, the animal will be feeding your loved ones.
     
  16. faithmarie

    faithmarie mamoo

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    We killed so many because .... we were stupid :nuts:...... well there are 11 in the family. Some fer them and some fer us'n. My husband and son in law could not watch me killin them. I told my son in law to get his git-tar an play the song from Deliverance whilst I killed em. LOL
    They have a greater respect for me now. And the saying hell hath no fury like a woman scorned..... I think that's how it goes took on a whole new meaning ..... I CAN FEED AND PROTECT MY FAMILY.
    I don't need no gun just gimmy a sharp knife .......tee hee
    As for how much wood.... Our house is blue stone at least two feet thick walls and a slate roof and it holds the COLD in the winter and holds the HEAT in the summer!!!!!!! But it sure is perdy. And it will stay standing in a blast and a tornado.
    We wood and coal heat and oil.

    Oh I forgot!!! My daughter bought a chicken plucker thingy!!!!!!! It was fabulous! With that investment we will continue the art of chicken killing... God help me. I asked each chicken to forgive me and asked God to bless each chicken .......
    Is there such a thing as chicken jerky? LOL
     
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  17. IrritatedWithUS

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    Am I the only odd one out of the group? I'm a vegetarian not because it's "mean" to eat animals. I just don't like the fact of processed/color-added/ammonia drenched-chemically injected animals being sold as meat. I never did like meat either. I guess I'm weird :p It's good to raise your own animals though.
     
  18. Idaholady

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    Wow, I'm impressed that you did all those chickens in! What a feat! I've never killed a chicken, but have eaten plenty. :) I plan to get a couple little banty chickens for eating all the bugs around the place. My hubby grew up on a chicken ranch, so he hasn't been excited about getting any layers; and he killed a few in his life and can't stand the 'smell' during the butchering process. LOL Can't blame him...

    My nursery order came today and I'm so excited about getting my trees and bushes in the ground. I received: one Persimmon tree, Asian Pear tree, Toka Plum tree, Green Gage Plum tree, 5 blueberry bushes, and a couple of cranberry groundcovers. I made sure they could survive in Zone 3-4 too. The blueberries are supposed to be able to survive at -40 degrees..woo.

    I'm trying to get as much edible fruit planted along with a veggie garden this year. We should have raspberries and grapes this year too.

    This is our second summer at the place and have much to do to get self-sufficient before food becomes an issue.

    The next thing I want to do is learn how to save seeds. My mind is constantly on prepping..... :)
     
  19. faithmarie

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    LOL... My younger daughter is a raw vegan.... as my older daughter were when she was pregnant with her first 4 children .... not because it is mean to the animals but for health purposes.... but we are meat eaters...... well not my youngest. But because she..we love my daughter and hubby and their children I killed them and she bagged them And she usually won't touch anything with meat and has her own cutting board. lol and designated prepping space. Funny.

    I didn't know you could grow persimmon trees in Idaho. Blueberry bushes are very hardy and blackberry too.
     
  20. tsrwivey

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    Note to self: add some Vick's salve to preps to put under nose while tending stinky jobs.

    Awesome job, FaithMarie!!! I am impressed!!! :beercheer: