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News Article. ‘My Kid Doesn’t Feel Safe’: Parents Detail Desperate Pleas to School Before Michigan Rampage

Quote "In a statement over the weekend, Throne sought to explain why Crumbley was sent to class even after these incidents. He said the teen had offered explanations for both the worrying internet searches and drawings, claiming he came from a family of gun enthusiasts and had drawn the violent imagery because it was part of a video game he was designing in his bid to become a video game developer. "
 

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Said in article. they were not treated properly. Or one wasn't. To me that indicates they have been abused, a long time. Including, and especially by, the medical community to. That is extreme stress. It always does something to people. And they know it. Young and easy to take advantage of. The (help) given, almost made them into school shooters. The services for kids in schools was stopped or about to be. Then after they had, no options, but welfare, and or criminal activities, at that age. Then the mental health options for adults are offered of forced upon them. surrounded by others who want to do drugs and otherwise party. A low likelihood of success. Especially at that age. The government knows it to. Setup that way on purpose. Cheaper by the dozen officially. More likely to fail unofficially, in recovery, and all that. With what little is offered. Done on purpose, to you and yours, on purpose. Some can never be helped.

So in this prevented school shooting, arrest of 2 teenagers. It's a little different. Now in story, asking why they are like this or one of them anyway. Once it's about a officially mentally disturbed person. It's about how come that person didn't get proper treatment. Basically always when there was no shooting.

One of them looks like he might have physical brain deformities because of the shape of his skull. You know that doctors decades ago that said skull measurements might indicate mental issues, that was laughed at as a quack basically. Not a de-fact-o fact, but more likely to have mental issues. Might not be serious mental issues either.

What happens is your local government lets people be harassed, to the point it is torture. You have some type of breakdown. You do something criminal like punch someone to maybe who has been victimizing you. You get sent for mental evaluation. You are found to be some type of mentally disturbed person, who matches there criteria, of this or that serious mental disorder, because of what 3rd party people, are doing to you. Dozens to hundreds to 1000s of them. The medical community, and criminal justice system pretend, they don't know what's being done to you. Pretend it's all in your mind. They lie to your face. Or use special wording to pretend it's not the same thing to you.

You might actually go traditional crazy and become a real danger because of what was done to you on purpose. You might actually kill people. Most people seem to commit suicide instead or try to. That's what they want. Or for you to just punch someone, for example. Even better. Violent and mentally disturbed in a special way. Not a murderer for example. Safe for them to harass that way, and for them to use you as there career security.

When you reach your breaking point. Maybe over and over again. You have to decide if you are going to hurt people or not. Or just yourself and your family. What gets done to you is so horrific, you think about the people who love you, but simply, do not care. You can not and they know it. Imagined being burned alive, with hot metal. And people laugh at you while they burn you alive, torture you. You want the pain to stop. That is all, that matters to you.

Some people going through this, lash out in various ways by various degrees.

Some people are crazy ,and violent, and dangerous. Usually they team up with others to abuse. Make it fun for themselves. Unfortunately there is more government workers involved in this then there are crazy people they want to abuse, by pretending to help.

Parent scared in this story of getting charged themselves. Even mentioned in story, about the first story in this post, and parents getting charged. What about school officials getting charged? Again maybe one or both of them were driven to, this almost act. We will never really know the truth.

Having police posted at schools will not fix up this issue, as they are a big part of the problem. Might fix up other problems. Most likely, the police, will become buddy buddy with there fellow gang member psychopaths in the schools. Might even encourage more gang members, to get into law enforcement, and other areas of the criminal justice system. At best, mass shooter at school tactics will change. Then what, more police? Does it matter how your kid died or was show. How about why it happens and preventing those issues from happening at least i the schools. Where people are supposed to feel and be safe. Everyone. Without exception. Maybe they are psychopaths themselves. Again warning signs. We will see.

Again comments made around people that can be taken person(s) was warning people to be left alone. Maybe, can be.
 

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So what can student(s) do, when they feel they are being abused at school, and they feel, they are also being abused by school staff, in there responses at least, to there complaint(s)? What is a proper investigation? What is a proper investigation, outside local authorities, with vested interests, at being lazy, and such (cover-ups). How is a proper investigation done? What questions get asked to all involved? What is the punishment? Etc. Are the people accused of bullying asked, for example. Have you been abusing you accuser, in any way, shape, or form? How? When? Why? What for? Etc. Did staff every see or here you abuse this person. Etc.

What did school staff do to address the issue? What are they supposed to do, to address the abusive behaviour(s)? What about repeat offenders? How are they punished? How are school staff punished for letting abuses happen? How about repeat offender school staffers, how are they punished. Where are the official complaints, and official responses, and how was a official investigation done. Details. They never want that. Then people know how lazy and evil they are. Staff wants there own kids to know, how to abuse people to, and get away with it. Want trouble maker kids, to go after someone, and not bother them. Etc. Don't want there parents, coming after them. All kinds of things. Want special government funding, for special needs kids. Remember that. Drug up kids in schools, by the government. What was the latest thing again? That mental issue with kids? Do you even remember? The latest epidemic in schools, a few years ago there? Yet again. What was that called again? Yet again. Federal funding and such again.

All school is perfect remember. So everything must be perfect. The easiest thing for them to do, is accuse you, or your family member, of having mental issues. Then almost no one cares about them. It's a huge, gigantic, human rights loophole, where they pretend, it's not a huge, gigantic, human rights loophole.

IT can easily take years to decades for someone to get better form what gets done to them. To even be able to speak somewhat coherently about it. They know it to. So they pour the abuses upon abuses upon you. Some murder, some commit suicide, or try to. Some go various other types of crazy. They know it to. They just don't care. Psychopaths.

They don't care, if you harm yourself, or others. Even better, you see to them. Proves them right. All they got to do, is prove themselves right. All the horrors, done to you are them justified, you see, to the rest of the general public. All the 1000s, to tens of 1000s, to hundreds of 1000s, of abuses, done to you, are now justified, and 5 minutes later, others locally and watching the news, forget, and then freak out, at the though of you, being around there kids, or whatever. More career security you see. Everybody wins, masses of local people win. Except for there victims. They always need more victims. As we get bigger government, they need more victims, for all the more staff, in bigger government departments. People get abused, in all kinds of ways. Wonder why, you never got some job, but another did, in some government, make work program? You know you are better. They don't want you having a job. You have been picked. 15 years old even. Too late already. You should not have said, her daughters ankles, were fat at school, 2 years ago. Or 7 years ago.

Maybe you got some help from, some government department, and you said, what a good job they did, helping you. That's it for you. Maybe you got some help period from some government department. That's a for sure reason. A common one.

You are poor, and not a special interest group member, officially. That's another common reason.

You spoke bad about the government and people know you are saying the truth and you are poor and or in a high unemployment area. Another common reason. You are not just repeating what gets said.

You get into debates as asked to by a teacher and you destroy your political debater in front of the class. They pretend you didn't and shut you down. Again telling the truth.

You caught the R.C.M.P. publicly, about to commit a serious crimes at the school, in front of basically, all the students, loaded onto school buses, about to go home. Then all kinds of people, are allowed, and encouraged, to abuse you and yours. Afterwards, new laws are passed, not allowing, only male R.C.M.P. officers, to take little female kids home, or whatever. Going for a R.C.M.P. ride. Strangely they couldn't call for backup, as men, were threatening, to get into a gun battle with them. Instead the R.C.M.P. ran away.
 

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What's going to happen more often? No warnings, before a school shooting. And killing people other ways, probably less focuses ways. No big leap of logic there. Using vehicles. Already happening for some attacks. I guess banning vehicles, will be the solution presented then. If that ever becomes someones agenda in the press or government. Look out.

With mass shootings. The anti-gun agenda gets pushed and mostly, abused people, don't kill. They become mentally disturbed, so that protects, all kinds of careers. A win win you see.

What's getting dealt with? The school shootings taking place, by blaming the parents. What's not getting dealt with, is the abuses (massive scale) that cause people to do mass shootings? And 1000s of times more often, criminal charges and such, the torture victim gets. And a diagnostic of being a dangerous mentally disturbed person them. At least, they are not murderously dangerous, pot smokers, that need to go to jail, and prison, right? By the tens of 1000s right? What is going to replace then all? Exponential growth and all that?

If you are a white male, or white female, you better look out. You better be on top, or high up, in any business you are in. Or look out. Even then look out. When you get mad it's racism. When another group gets mad, it's right and just. Poor white. Look out even more. I hope you don't like having food.
 

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Oxford school shooting: Ethan Crumbley’s parents in court in shackles as state says evidence is ‘staggering’

Why the shackles? The P.R. show must go on.

Well I use to love looking at guns all the time. I know all kinds of things. Now I just see guns as the tool of the oppressor. Since only cops seem to get them in real life. I still want one. I want all law abiding people to have guns. More precisely I don't want criminals to have guns. I don't want hardened criminals even around. They can have there own communities like pervert park on youtube. Perverts are not capable of controlling themselves, when given to chance to re-offend.

Charges can be pressed against any parent(s) in this situation. then there will still be mountains of evidence always. If you have guns. See what they are doing. Gun owners seems to like knowing certain things. Means nothing really. Until something happens and then it's evidence. Again what lead up to that event. Like a school shooting. Does it matter how you loved one died? With a car, knife, gun, suicide? Prevention is key, so is stopping abusers from abusing. Abusers with and without jobs where abuses are taking place. Repeat offenders need especially to be dealt with.

Maybe severe bullying didn't take place in this one case. 1000s and 1000s of other times it has.
 
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