Red Cross Widerness First Aid

Discussion in 'Health & Medicine' started by mjdoa, May 24, 2010.

  1. mjdoa

    mjdoa Member

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    Has anyone taken this course?
    I'm about to sign up for it($135.00).
    I called the local Red Cross,they tell me this is
    the course to take for SHTF preparedness.
    Just wonder if it's worth double the money
    they charge for standard first-aid/cpr/aed course.
    Thanks for opinions.
     
  2. tyler_kd0bsa

    tyler_kd0bsa Well-Known Member

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    Depending on what you have already I would recommend the NOLS wilderness first aid course if you can find one close by. No CPR or AED included but I guess I already had that. Its very good with mock practice on the skills you learn. Any more questions just pm me.
     

  3. sailaway

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    What is the course outline? Alot of scouting manuals can be used to learn accident management in the wilderness.
     
  4. tyler_kd0bsa

    tyler_kd0bsa Well-Known Member

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    For the NOLS course it is:

    DAY 1
    Introductions
    Patient Assessment System
    Initial Assessment
    Patient Exam

    Vital Signs

    Focused History
    Documentation

    Lunch

    Spinal Cord Injury Management
    Head Injuries
    Shock
    Wilderness Wound Management


    DAY 2
    Focused Spine Assessment

    Athletic Injuries
    Fractures
    Dislocations
    Heat Injuries

    Lunch

    Cold Injuries
    Lightning
    Altitude Illness

    Acute Abdomen

    Anaphylaxis
    The Unresponsive Patient
    Wilderness First Aid Kits
     
  5. mjdoa

    mjdoa Member

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    I have no formal training.
    Also can't spell wilderness.:eek:
    The online description of the course says,
    Wilderness First Aid Training | Lee County Red Cross
    The person I called was not the instructor of this course,
    he said it is very intensive.
    I feel like I'd like to have at least some formal hands on training,
    I've read lots and have some first-aid manuals.
    I'll look at NOLS training.
     
  6. tyler_kd0bsa

    tyler_kd0bsa Well-Known Member

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    When I took the NOLS course it was like $250 but that included food and lodging for where it was held. I already had CPR and AED beforehand though.
     
  7. sailaway

    sailaway Well-Known Member

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    Definately goes deeper than scouting in some areas.
     
  8. mjdoa

    mjdoa Member

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    NOLS is way far away,not an option.
    I'll see if I can find a better description of the Red Cross
    course and post it up.
    Sorry,I'm at work,may take a little time.
    Thanks for answering,all.
     
  9. mjdoa

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    Found an outline for the Red Cross course:




    Course Outline

    Types of Delayed-help Situations
    Emergency Action Steps – Check, Call, Care – in these situations
    Checking the scene, patient, and resources
    Contacting help
    Caring for the patient long term
    Patient assessment and Record
    Preventing Disease Transmission
    Prioritizing Care
    Treatment of injuries such as:
    Wounds

    Head and Spinal Injuries

    Extremity Injuries

    Abdominal Injuries

    Sudden Illnesses

    Major Bites and Stings

    Other types of backcountry miseries

    Carrying Out the Plan

    Deciding to Evacuate
     
  10. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

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    I took the Wilderness FirstAid course now through a local company called "InsideOut Experience". I have renewed my Wilderness FirstAid several times through them since that first time of getting my certificate. They follow the RedCross FirstAid course and my certificate states RedCross right on it.

    I will say that the winter-course is much harder than their summer-course as we had to deal with possible hypothermia in real-life while out in the bush doing the course. The course was several days of class-room training and two days of intense outdoor training.

    We went over many scenerios from something as simple as removing a splinter to car-accidents, hunting accidents (arrow, gun-shot) to falls and breaks and sucking chest-wounds.

    I came away from that course knowing more about first-aid than I learned from my LifeSaving courses (water-safety / life-guard) and learned alternates to what I learned through my Industrial FirstAid courses (my dad was am Industrial FirstAid guy for 30+ years).

    I have all the books on being an EMT - read them over (and still have/use the Palm-application) I feel that what I learned in Wilderness FirstAid will be more than sufficient due to the training we go through to "use what is available" instead of needing to rely on the "tools and proceedures".

    Too many EMT's rely on "speed" to get the person in trouble to help which is something that a Wilderness FirstAider may not have (imagine a 10mile hike back to a place where you might be able to call in some help).
     
  11. Littlebit

    Littlebit Well-Known Member

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    Very Cool! I would like to do something to brush up on my First Aid Training. My years working off shore I went through some pretty intense fire fighting and water survival training, but I have never taken a wilderness course. I don't think I would do very good in the winter. :eek:
     
  12. mjdoa

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    Thanks,NaeKid,and everyone else.
    I live in SW FL,hypothermia isn't usually a huge issue here,
    but could be.:cool:
    I did sign up for the course,it's July 10-11.There goes that weekend.
    It'll be interesting to see how they treat subjects like hypothermia,
    how "localized" the training will be.Will give you an opinion after
    it's over,if I can find this thread again in 6 or 7 weeks.
     
  13. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

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    You can add certain threads to your "watch-list" and when you need to go back to them, visit your UserCP (ControlPanel) and click into your watch-list and re-visit the thread at that time.

    To get this thread into your "watch-list", click on ThreadTools at the top of this message, then choose Subscribe to this thread and follow the rest of the prompts!
     
  14. mjdoa

    mjdoa Member

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    Will do,thanks
     
  15. Expeditioner

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    The Red Cross is a good introduction to Wilderness Medicine. Take the course. Sometimes the instructors can point you in the right direction for advanced training.

    The NOLS course is fantastic. Check out their site. They have some great resources:

    http://www.nols.edu/wmi/
     
    Last edited: May 25, 2010
  16. model130

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    The Red Cross is a money grubbing organization. It is like giving to the United Way. I would not give a dime to either organization. You can't go wrong with some basic boy scout training from say the 70's. Then add your CPR and more recent stuff. I am sure the new boy scout manual is more focused on fighting off a gay male leader. So this is what our lifes come to.