Overwhelmed

Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by NaeKid, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

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    Last night after too many beers my lady and I were talking about teotwawki and she was feeling very overwhelmed by all of it. I don't know if the beer had an influence on her, or, if the beer allowed her to freak-out a bit.

    Due to the fact that my beer consumption was significantly less than hers, I tried my best to reason with her. I forgot the old saying - Never try to reason with a drunk, it is like trying to reason with an idiot. We never got to the point of a verbal (or physical) fight, but, the conversation was going in circles - around and around.

    I am thinking now (hindsight what it is) that beer and wine might not be a good idea for a SHTF situation - we will need our wits fully and completely about us.

    We talked about zombie-raiders, chemical-spills (due to the close proximity of a major north-south train track nearby), airplane accidents (due to the close proximity of the Calgary International Airport) and other situations that might cause us to leave-town as fast as possible.

    After all the talking, I figure that we are better prepared by heading home first and see if we can wait-out the problems. The next thing to prepare for us is to convert our digital media to paper media and place it all into duplicated zipper'd binders for easy access.

    The next thing to do is to create a few more BOB's and BOK's for the vehicles to stay in the vehicles and not just stay in the house for easy transport out. If something happened that we were away from the house and something happened - it could be impossible to get home to gather supplies and go.

    My new motto: Better to have with and not need than need and not have with.

    That is my early-morning rant for today ..
     
  2. Canadian

    Canadian Well-Known Member

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    No booze in my bug out supplies. I need to be alert too.
     

  3. dukman

    dukman Greenhorn

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    There is nothing wrong with a little bit of alcohol. It is all about moderation. Alcohol can be very potent in quantity, but one airline bottle can help take the edge off without going overboard. The trick is keeping the rest of the stash hidden well enough.
     
  4. sailaway

    sailaway Well-Known Member

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    I've had my wits about me one day at a time for nearly 25 years now, don't miss the stuff abit.:hmmm:
     
  5. bunkerbob

    bunkerbob Supporting Member

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    OMG...how do you think I and however many of us will maintain ourselves in the shelter for any period of time...booze.:beercheer:
     
  6. Jason

    Jason I am a little teapot

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    I drink very little. Maybe a couple shots a month. I really don't drink beer. I love the stuff-just don't want the carbs. There's a couple fifths in the basement, but I typically have to dust off the bottle to have a swig.
     
  7. UncleJoe

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    We gave it up 6-7 years ago. That leaves more room for other supplies. We don't miss it at all. :beercheer: :rolleyes:
     
  8. Canadian

    Canadian Well-Known Member

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    I'm giving away a case of wine. Needed the space for food and other supplies.
     
  9. bunkerbob

    bunkerbob Supporting Member

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    Just remember before you get rid of the liquor, it will make great barter items in tough times, and hard liquor, tobacco related items, will help supplement monetary systems. I agree that liquor has little or no use in a BOB.
     
  10. TechAdmin

    TechAdmin Administrator Staff Member

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    Booze in an emergency situation would be great for trading. Everybody will want it.
     
  11. Jason

    Jason I am a little teapot

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    That's a good point, you guys. Might be worth throwing a couple bottles in the stash for just that reason.
     
  12. allen_idaho

    allen_idaho Well-Known Member

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    But you know what will be more valuable than all of the alcohol, candy, or junk food you could possibly squirrel away? Toilet paper.

    You can always brew more alcohol or make sweets. But toilet paper, now there is a product that can't be replaced without mass production. Let the rest of the world spend a few months using bits of cloth or rough paper to wipe their butts. Then see what you can get for a roll. :2thumb:
     
  13. UncleJoe

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    That's an area we already took care of. :) I started paying attention to what we used in a month then multiplied by 12. We now have a little over a years worth in plastic totes.
     
  14. NaeKid

    NaeKid YourAdministrator, eh?

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    I also stock-up on the most-important-paper-in-the-world ... whenever I see my favorite on sale, I'll purchase ~5 packages worth (24 rolls per). I could consider purchasing more, but, I don't have a huge house and it is already pretty full.
     
  15. bunkerbob

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    Jeeze, for a minute there I thought you were talking about the US dollar. My mistake, pretty soon it won't be worth stocking up on.
     
  16. TechAdmin

    TechAdmin Administrator Staff Member

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    Pretty soon it will be cheaper than toilet paper.
     
  17. usafa93

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    Trade

    Congratulations Sailaway. 25+ years is outstanding, and I wish you continued strength. (How's Cedar Point?)

    As I'm sure you know, many, many people will trade any and all that they have for a bottle of alcohol. The type of spirits doesn't matter, because in a pinch they'll take whatever they can get (I've, unfortunately, witnessed/experienced this nightmare first-hand in my home). If they have food, supplies, gold, whatever, it's all compromised for a bottle of the cheapest vodka. While I'm not an advocate of exploiting another's addiction, it is an extremely viable and realistic currency. Look what a heroin junky will do for just one hit. A practicing alcoholic is exactly the same.

    As far as alcohol as a treatment or medicine in a SHTF situation, while it may have effects some desire, it will definitely, absolutely impair their judgment, emotions, and thinking.
     
  18. youpock

    youpock Well-Known Member

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    Hmm booze, an interesting option. I like my booze here and there and I think when shtf I'll bring along a bottle or two but probably for trading/defense/fire not consumption. I don't mind being impaired at home with my friends/family but when I'm going to have to wake up the next day and hunt for my meal instead of local taqueria; I'm going to want to be 100%
     
  19. twolilfishies

    twolilfishies wanna be prepared

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    if alcohol makes her paranoid hope she doesnt smoke pot!:p
    i hate booze but it would have its uses as in perhaps someone gets hurt and needs some relief! ( in the old days tooth extractions and a bottle of whiskey go hand in hand )
    or like someone said earlier in the thread....barter tool
     
  20. Seneschal

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    Alcohol also works to an extent at killing bacteria (which when you think about the fact that it kills things, and then you're drinking it, that's reassuring...). I think I'd probably keep a little, but not very much.