Not right, but maybe you should...

Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by SurviveNthrive, Oct 24, 2010.

  1. SurviveNthrive

    SurviveNthrive a dude

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    ...think about two things, 1.) take what is offered and 2.) realize you're on your own.

    Offered for discussion:

    1.) As many of us develop stockpiles and stores and we can sustain ourselves for a bit longer than most, there's another side to it. If you don't que up when the FEMA truck pulls up and starts handing out MRE's and water, people might notice. We may assume incorrectly that once FEMA responds it's heading toward recovery, but what if that's a flash in the pan as they reprioritize and effort is shifted for either pragmatic or politically correct reasons. The problem might be a long way from being over but if you're not lining up to get water and MRE's, some will notice. If the trucks stop coming, the other people might visit you because they know or think you have enough that you weren't in need before.

    2.) I guess I'm culturally white, but most wouldn't identify me that way if you saw me, so this is perhaps a fair perspective: There's a dark reality. Some believe that economically depressed minority areas are priorities, not white suburbanites and rural residents. The belief behind this is, many white are better at prepping and they do less media complaining than other groups due to societal expectations and it makes for better press photos when relief is given to minorities. This came up during Katrina where entire white neighborhoods were bypassed. For many here, your area is not a priority. It's better to believe that and therefore, be better prepared. In areas with less diversity, this isn't an issue.

    During a disaster response type briefing at a local city a long time ago, I remember the instructor, who spoke surprisingly frankly saying "If there's a nursing home, problems on Hilltop (a minority area), and a middle class white suburban neighborhood all in trouble following a distaster, where do you think they're going to send the assets? Where do you think the news crews are going to be? You're on your own."
     
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  2. PS360

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    I think it’s very unlikely you would be missed unless one of the guys handing out food knows you.

    Or if there’s someone just standing there for hours watching the lines with a checklist of everyone they know by sight, and ticking off names until they have a remaining sub-list of people who didn’t show up.
     

  3. mmszbi

    mmszbi Junior Member

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    I don't have a problem with standing in line should it come around, heck, our tax dollars paid for all that they are giving out, just seems would finally get some payback. In a round-a-bout way, stretching your budget. Why not. Also would allow you to assess possible adversaries and to judge the condition of surroundings and neighbors. INTEL!
     
  4. thunderdan19

    thunderdan19 Shoots to Thrill

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    I say take whatever the guvment is handing out to supplement what you got, but don't risk everything you have by putting yourself out there if raiders are hitting up FEMA handouts (assuming law and order are things of the past).

    After TSHTF, any food or water is good food or water, because you never know when relief sources will run out. Save your own stock until you absoolutely need it, so long as the food lines are safe.

    And, as mentioned above, the lines might be sources of news and intel about what's going on in your area, good or bad. But, I'd definitely show up armed (discreetly, of course).
     
  5. PS360

    PS360 Well-Known Member

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    I naturally dislike crowds, but I do like free stuff.
    It would just depend on how long the line was whether it was worth my time or not.

    Most likely it would be so long I wouldn’t bother. (like waiting 1-3 hours to get some MREs and water)
    isn't worth it
     
  6. lotsoflead

    lotsoflead Well-Known Member

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    Another great reason to keep a low profile, i've lived here for more yrs than i care to admit but people don't notice me missing because they don't see me very often in the local stores or coffee houses, gas stations.
    I don't think we'll have to worry about FEMA trucks being around handing out anything in a national disastor or a national SHTF situation, maybe in a city like NO they could handle it for a while, but it almost looks like the next disastor may be a complete financial collaspe all over America if not the whole world, Everyone will be looking out for number one, I don't think FEMA has the trucks or the manpower to distribute food to 300,000,000 people even if they had the food..
     
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  7. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

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    just because they don't see you does NOT mean they don't know you're there...

    sometimes the best place to hide something is in plain sight

    and of course any proposed course of action, either way, will have exceptions/contingencies to it as well
     
  8. ZoomZoom

    ZoomZoom Rookie Prepper

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    I'm in a pretty rural area with unfriendly walking terrain (big hills). If they set up hand-out stations, I'm doubting they'll get much of a turnout (including myself). Now, if they drove down the back roads and met people at the end of their driveways or every 1/2 mile, then I'd partake. At that close of range, neighbors will notice if you're not in line.
     
  9. SnakeDoc

    SnakeDoc Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry they'll be going door to door for your guns first, so they'll know who lives where.
     
  10. Clarice

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    I agree, they will know where you are. I will take the handouts, I can use them to barter with, eat myself or possibly in a threatening situation buy my way out by letting the bad guys think this is all I have, gov't. handouts. None of us really know what we would do until a certain situation confronts us.
     
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  11. SnakeDoc

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    I live in a tiny, rural town. It is a community of at least 65% LDS. Most of the aid will probably be run through the setup that the town already has. If it gets heavy handed, I would assume that it might not go well for the door kickers.
     
  12. SnakeDoc

    SnakeDoc Well-Known Member

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    The upside is the lines might be a covert way to communicate/spread info under the keepers noses.
     
  13. kyfarmer

    kyfarmer Well-Known Member

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    They already know where you are at. Why do ya think those a-holes GPS,ed everyone's door during the nation wide head count. :gaah: I think this was bull crap, but if you were counted you are in the same location, they have ya. Why would those scumballs need a fix on ya door, that is scary suck for sure. Don't start trouble during marshal law or, a drone will plant one through ya front door. :scratch
     
  14. mickbear

    mickbear Active Member

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    Sooo true so true
     
  15. Lonewufcry

    Lonewufcry Lonewufcry

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    I have to agree. If it came down to it take what you can get but remember to always watch your six. everyone here has made a good point but what SnT said makes sense.
     
  16. sailaway

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    My city is already 65% minorities who have nothing but section 8 housing and food stamps. Most of them did such a good job raising their kids that they are raising their grand kids. They show up for all the freebies and many don't have much gratitude when things run out, but it is only fair to say there are a few who appreciate what they are given. Personally I would stay away from people like this in a long line for FEMA handouts. I would rely more on fishing and foraging in my own town and surrounding countryside.

    There are still rural areas around me where you can build without a permit, and I am looking for one of these for my BOL.I think if I stay off the grid and never use a cell phone there the gubbermint would not know that it exhists, and that my address is my intown one.:cool:
     
  17. The_Blob

    The_Blob performing monkey

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    speaking of cell phones... get the OLDEST one you can stand to use, no sim cards, no GPS, no internet connectivity, MAYBE a camera... sure they can track you by tower but that is imprecise & only when you are 'on'

    I personally have eliminated my wireless footprint, I don't even use cordless phones at home... there is NO rf emanating from my house (my computer is homemade & 12' underground, there are no laptops) so the FCC can go pound salt
     
  18. OntarioMan

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    It will sound cynical, but by the time the government trucks do show up, the situation will have resolved itself. I'm much more worried about people's perception of my preps between the time disaster hits, and the time that the first aid truck comes. You make a good point about keeping a low profile while the trucks are showing up, in case they do stop and you've already bragged about your stash.
     
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  19. BuggingIn

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    I'd go stand in line if I knew about it, but if the power is out, internet down, etc, I probably would never hear there was a FEMA handout going on. Too far out in the boonies, so only if they actually went door to door would I know. Don't know if my neighbors would miss me standing in line or now. I know the closest ones, but not the ones down the other side roads.
     
  20. horseman09

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    In a real SHTF situation, I don't think I'd wanna stand in a FEMA line and leave my family and home unprotected.

    As I recall from reports from Katrina, aid workers would only give supplies to the number of people in line. In other words, if you have a family of four, you only get supplies for four if they are also in the line.