Need some advice on land

Discussion in 'General Homesteading & Building' started by lhalfcent, Aug 6, 2011.

  1. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    hey all
    ok, here is the scoop and what I am considering.
    My family and I have been renting a home in a small rural town here in southern MN with a very large lot. This has allowed me to garden big and such.
    anyway, the landlord let his property go into foreclosure last year without telling me and pocketed the rent each month.
    Now the bank is taking over the property in the middle of October and I am beside myself as to what to do.
    Like most money is short.
    however, I have been looking at a site called at plots of undeveloped land where I can pay like a couple hundreds bucks down then a hundred or two each month and own the thing. Been considering this for a couple years now but for some reason I just held back. :confused:
    I would have to dig a well and put a house on it but wondered if this is something that is worth doing?? Like finding a double wide and putting it on a foundation etc. Or build from scratch like the old homesteaders did.
    If we do this, we will most likely have to find a place to rent for the winter and then in the spring develop this piece of land. (still deciding to stay in Mn or not)
    But I really want to be near people who think like me and be self sufficient.
    here where we live there really isn't anyone who thinks like me anyway so gosh i am so open.
    But the signs of the times so to speak are saying to get off the grid asap.
    I'm so frustrated and angry about this. I should be putting up food right now and getting my root cellar in order for winter etc.
    any advice??
  2. tsrwivey

    tsrwivey Supporting Member

    You could get an old used travel trailer to live in until you get something built on the land. They are cheap & easy to haul off once you're finished or keep it as a BOV.

    My gut tells me you'd be better off buying land through a traditional realtor than a website. If you don't have a good amount of experience buying real estate you can make mistakes with lots of zeros on the end of them. :cry: I don't have any experience with the RE market in MN, though so take it for what it's worth.

  3. partdeux

    partdeux Senior Member

    There were supposed to be some special rules put in place for renters of foreclosed properties. Did you get served with an eviction notice from the bank/sheriff? At a minimum, I'd open a special bank account and place the monthly rent payment in that and not pay anybody. Might be worth seeing a local attorney that is specializing in foreclosures.

    Find out what houses are selling for under foreclosure in your area, the bank may be willing to sell it to you rather than go through the entire foreclosure process. you may also have to sue the landowner to get your deposit back.

    We're seeing foreclosed properties going for 1/3 their high prices. Great opportunity to step up. Have any relatives that may want to become landlords? Have any retirement money you could use as a substantial down payment? Be cautious to not pay too much, the market in your area will dictate how much you should pay, don't get sucked into listing price, go for actual sale price.
  4. Immolatus

    Immolatus Just getting started. Always.

    How feasible/desirable would it be to try to buy the land you live on now?
    If you could find out the owner, it might be good for them (read:easier/cheaper) to just sell it to you if you currently live there.
    If you would actually want to stay there this may be your cheapest and easiest option.

    Take this with a grain of salt, but home/land values will continue to drop.
    My buddy who is also (like me) convinced of an imminent financial collapse (the downgrade is just the beginning), and says that when that happens real estate will completely collapse and you will be able to buy homes/land for nothing. While I personally see some problems with this line of thinking (arable land will hold more value than a mcmansion) I think the general idea is correct.
  5. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    well the bank wants its loan the landlord owes and apparently I was told the house isn't worth the loan amount.
    The loan amount is 159,000 whereas the market value at this point is around 90,000.
    it is predicted that by november the value will go down to around 75,000.
    there are so many empty homes here but it is hard to get loans. I have been looking for someone to either CD a place or I don't know.
    I am familiar with the MN land this site is offering and it might be a good investment for say a bug out place perhaps.
    I have thought of getting a used trailer type thing and plunking it down on a piece and then work on homesteading in the spring. I would have to build a well tho. sigh Not sure what to do right now so am gathering info, advice etc.

    It is in the best interest of everyone if we could negotiate something but either I let the bank evict us in october or we move. sigh
  6. Moose33

    Moose33 Well-Known Member

    Hi lhalfcent,
    I don't know about foreclosure laws in MN but, recently where I work we forclosed on a property and the tenants contacted us. They ended up purchasing the property. We had to go through the entire foreclosure process but they ended up with the property for less than was owed on it. We even financed it for them. I suspect you've been a good tenant and always paid your rent on time. That will go a long way with the bank. It can't hurt to at least talk to them and see what they say. Keep in mind their first answer may not be their last. The bank probably does not want another OREO (other real estate owned) property. The carrying costs are just another unwanted expense for the bank. Would love to know how it turns out for you.
    Good luck,
  7. IndigoLight

    IndigoLight Spiritual Prepper

    I agree with those who recommended to look into foreclosures. I would add look into HUD foreclosures if possible. They have special programs for owner-occupants and one can get a house with very little or no down-payment.
    And use a realtor, yep, you want to make sure all paperwork is in order.
    On-line land deal smells fishy IMHO. Such deals are usually targeting out-of-state buyers and are overpriced.
  8. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    thanks moose and indigolight.
    i will keep you all informed.
    I have been trying to talk to the bank but no luck so far.
    I guess i will have to resort to a realtor person as they most likely know how to get to the right person. I just don't want to be screwed, you know?
  9. goshengirl

    goshengirl Supporting Member

    I have no advice on purchase options, unfortunately. Just wanted to say that I'm sorry you're going through this when you really want to be hunkering down for the winter. But doesn't it always seem that when something like this happens, it turns out to be a blessing in disguise? You know, sort of liberates you to think outside the box? I just have this feeling that you're going to end up doing something you wouldn't have otherwise done, and you're going to be really glad you did. :)
  10. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    it is definitely causing me to look outside the box! lol
    Thank you for your encouragement. blessings!
  11. Moose33

    Moose33 Well-Known Member

    Hi lhalfcent,
    You mention you've not been having luck talking to the bank. Have you contaced thier managed assets department? Each bank has their own name for it. Maybe foreclosure department or something like that. Another thing you could do is write to the bank's regional manager. Sometimes going as close to the "top" as you can get moves people off top dead center. Like others have suggested, I'd avoid on line sales. You can bet no matter how honest they may (or may not) be it will be more expensive. Stick with a local realtor. Talk to friends and family for a reccomendation. I'm really sorry you are going through this. Its quite unsettling and for some reason, to me at least, seems worse going into winter.
    Take care,
  12. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    coming into winter is not good. grrr I should be putting up food right now so i am in a quandry. my garden did so well this year i have a surplus!
    I am already canning cukes and maters and such.
    I think I might do more dehydrating as that would be easier to move.
  13. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

  14. gypsysue

    gypsysue The wanderer

    If you like the house you're living in, at least talk to the bank and see if something can be worked out. If not, you haven't lost anything. If, you'll have yourself a house!

    Best wishes, no matter how it works out. Please do keep us posted.
  15. BillS

    BillS Well-Known Member

    Stay where you are. It'll take some time before things get sorted out. Search Google for information about your situation.
  16. lhalfcent

    lhalfcent Supporting Member

    Yeah? are you saying that cuz of the economy crashing? just wondering.
    I am just reading and learning things.
  17. *Andi

    *Andi Supporting Member

    Alright ... I talked to my daughter (she works as a loan officer) about this and here is what is said you could try ...

    Call the main bank and ask to speak to the loan officer in charge. Once you get ahold of the loan officer see if they still have the property or if it has been moved to the foreclosure office. They should be able to keep you in the loop as to what is going on. (Hope this helps)

    She didn't understand why no one wouldn't talk to you ... :scratch A renter wanting to buy foreclosure property would be good for the bank.

    Anyway best of luck ...
  18. BillS

    BillS Well-Known Member