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So, here is one question that is no longer philosophical ...

I just read in the New York Times that three men were killed after being run down by a car while they were protecting their homes from looters. The driver of the car is now the subject of a murder investigation.
 

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My sister lives in London, and as of yesterday there was rioting about 2 miles from their house. Both her and her husband had been sent home early. The BIL said that it originally started as a peaceful protest over the shotting of some guy by the cops, and now that it has just turned into large scale rioting over nothing. I surmise that people dont riot over nothing. Happy, content people dont riot. The news is now saying that they are rioting over government policies and high prices.
Businesses and homes are being destroyed. Youre damned right that if they has guns this crap wouldnt be happening.
Last time I was over there, I was talking to a bunch of his friends (all Oxford boys, and mostly very well off) and they couldnt understand our 'obsession with guns'. I told them they lived in a police state. "If only the police have guns, then by definition you live in a police state".
"How would you defend youself if someone broke into your house? I have a baseball bat. What if they have a gun? I have a baseball bat, and the likelihood of that happening is slim, since guns are illegal." I wonder what they are thinking now? Im thinking Id rather have an illegal gun than see my house burnt to the ground, much less my family injured by a group of idiots.

Seeing wide scale rioting in thrid world countries is one thing, seeing it in the UK is another.
 

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England has always prided itself on peaceful co-exsistance among all who live there. This rioting is such a shock to me. If it can happen there it can and will happen here. Prepare for the worst and Pray for the best.
 

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England has always prided itself on peaceful co-exsistance among all who live there. This rioting is such a shock to me. If it can happen there it can and will happen here. Prepare for the worst and Pray for the best.
they were always peaceful, but now it's a multicultural nation and some races don't take it lightly when one of theirs is shot. when a white boy is shot the white people say oh well he wasn't mine and the relatives start a law suit and settle quietly out of court. when a black boy is shot, the black people stick together and want the world to know that they're not going to stand for it.JMO from watching things happen the past 60 yrs.
 

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Happy, content people dont riot. The news is now saying that they are rioting over government policies and high prices.
Businesses and homes are being destroyed.
The chick that CNN interviewed said that they were showing "rich people" that they can take what they want.

Look at what happened at the Wisconsin State Fair where black teenagers were pulling white people out of their cars and beating them for no reason. Don't think it can't happen here. I know the police department I work for has extensive plans in place for such an event.
 

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If I remember some history, at the start of their last war with Germany, US citizens sent them over thousands of personal sporting firearms because the Brits didn't have enough of their own in which to protect themselves and repeal a possible German invasion.

Well, THAT won't happen again. The Brits should have grown a pair and stood up en mass and not allowed their socialist government to disarm them again.

Now the prodigy of socialism who have had everything provided to them through the socialist system want everyone to be as miserable as they are. All the while, the islamic wolf sits over in the corner licking it's chops.

What a disaster the UK has become! I'll die on my feet dishing it out before I'll allow that to happen here!
 

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Too bad they didn't have firearms to protect their homes. I'm sure the outcome would have been different.
Yes, it would've been much different than America. The person killing the criminal attacking them would've been arrested. Women go to jail in England if they fight back too severely when someone is attempting to rape them. A few years ago a man went to prison for shooting two burglars. While in prison he was denied parole because the judge said if he was released it would make burglars unsafe. And no, this isn't a joke and I'm not making it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
 

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Yes, it would've been much different than America. The person killing the criminal attacking them would've been arrested. Women go to jail in England if they fight back too severely when someone is attempting to rape them. A few years ago a man went to prison for shooting two burglars. While in prison he was denied parole because the judge said if he was released it would make burglars unsafe. And no, this isn't a joke and I'm not making it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
Thus, another reason I live in TX. No one here would convict you for defending your home or your family.
 

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I too have family in London-they have evacuated their home due to the burnings that have been going on... two of them are police and have had bricks thrown at them.
England has had much upset and rioting that goes on- we just don't hear about it as much here. Having family there we hear much more than what the news broadcasts. This was a race war waiting for a the first shot.
The scuttlebutt coming from them via Facebook is that it started with the shooting and has escalated into anger over the cutting of the welfare dole which has so many of the younger crowd out of work/out of cash and out of the system so that they have nothing better to do and are out to just destroy-they are not even looting the stores they are just burning them down. The police have become targets of their anger.
 

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From what I gather Englands riots are now turning into a race war. I was in LA when the Rodney King riots went down. Carried a 9mm everywhere I went.
 

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Do they think that after all of the burning, looting, and rioting are done there will suddenly be construction jobs and such for them to go to??
Is insurance going to pay for all of the damage these hoodlums are doing?
Looting and rioting just makes no sense to me! What are they supposed to accomplish by burning down their own town??
 

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Yes, it would've been much different than America. The person killing the criminal attacking them would've been arrested. Women go to jail in England if they fight back too severely when someone is attempting to rape them. A few years ago a man went to prison for shooting two burglars. While in prison he was denied parole because the judge said if he was released it would make burglars unsafe. And no, this isn't a joke and I'm not making it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)
The link didn't take me to a page.
 

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My employer has a factory about 2 miles from the rioting. But since it's an industrial parts that they make and not expensive goods in stores it's probably not going to get affected. I asked my counter part over there about it and he had no response. Couldn't understand why or what the purpose was.

Most of the pictures are either destruction or looting with the looting seeming to be a teen thing.
 

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Do they think that after all of the burning, looting, and rioting are done there will suddenly be construction jobs and such for them to go to??
Is insurance going to pay for all of the damage these hoodlums are doing?
Looting and rioting just makes no sense to me! What are they supposed to accomplish by burning down their own town??
I heard some interviews today of why
"we're getting back our tax money"
"we're getting even with the rich people"
and way too many other reasons... When you create an entitlement class and you take away that entitlement... it gets ugly
 
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