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I have listened with a great deal of amusement to both sides of the political spectrum tout locking up and or impeaching the sitting president.

This is all a political show for the masses.

The reality is that it is impossible to either impeach the president or to prosecute Hillary Clinton .

Prosecutorial discretion would prevent a successful prosecution.

When charged with a crime to which you plead "not guilty", you have to have all twelve jurors find you guilty. Since you are entitled to a jury of your peers , at least six would have to be democrats.

The same holds true with Trump.

To impeach the president, you have to have 2/3 of the senate and it has to be a high crime and/or misdemeanor.

This whole dog and pony show is just to jen up support from the uneducated / unwashed populace .
 

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When charged with a crime to which you plead "not guilty", you have to have all twelve jurors find you guilty. Since you are entitled to a jury of your peers , at least six would have to be democrats.
That's not only wrong, it's incredibly ignorant.
 

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To impeach the president, you have to have 2/3 of the senate and it has to be a high crime and/or misdemeanor.
I'm sure the 'high crimes and misdemeanors' condition has been met. Just because it hasn't been released yet doesn't mean nothing is there. Once it is laid out in public there's going to be a lot more pressure on both sides to impeach.
Don't act as if you cynicism is fact, bill.
 

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I'm sure the 'high crimes and misdemeanors' condition has been met. Just because it hasn't been released yet doesn't mean nothing is there. Once it is laid out in public there's going to be a lot more pressure on both sides to impeach.
Don't act as if you cynicism is fact, bill.
I think you have an impeachment proceeding confused with a criminal trial.
They are two different things.
You are incredibly ignorant. :)
 

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The left definitely wants to impeach Trump. It doesn't matter what the law is. The Democrats will remove him from office if they can and at least half of the Republicans are Deep State puppets so they'll go along with it. It's nothing less than a coup against a sitting president. It is NOT political theater.
 

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Prosecutorial discretion would prevent a successful prosecution.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard today and that's saying a lot
When charged with a crime to which you plead "not guilty", you have to have all twelve jurors find you guilty. Since you are entitled to a jury of your peers , at least six would have to be democrats.
I take back my earlier comment. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Does a black defendant require 6 black jurors? NO. Does a paraplegic require 6 paraplegics? NO. Just stating this shows an incredible ignorance of the judicial system.
To impeach the president, you have to have 2/3 of the senate and it has to be a high crime and/or misdemeanor.
What is a high crime and/or misdemeanor? It's whatever the fuck the house says it is. There is no definition or restriction on the house. None, nada.

It amazes me that you will support Trump who's lied, reduce regulations designed to protector you and me for the sake of making his associates money. Farmers are deeper in dept than anytime in the last 3 decades. Some here aren't even planting this spring because they can't sell last years crop.

The person talking about restricting the media, calling them enemy of the state. FUCK YOU RETARD. Your are supporting the very thing you crow about preventing.
 

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OH, If any one thinks I don't plan on continuing to call out your idiocy or anyone else's. Ban me

FUCK YOU TOO!!

This goes double for Sentry the person who defends burning infants with flash bang grenades. Beat up any protesters lately, Sentry or haven't had the chance?
 

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The left definitely wants to impeach Trump. It doesn't matter what the law is. The Democrats will remove him from office if they can and at least half of the Republicans are Deep State puppets so they'll go along with it. It's nothing less than a coup against a sitting president. It is NOT political theater.
Republicans impeached Clinton for far less but this, THIS, is a coup? The only people who think that are the people who share your ignorance and stay away from anyone who disagrees.

The only reason you support him is because you voted for him and you are too hard headed to admit you made a mistake. That's ok. The very people who continue to support him are the same ones getting hurt the worst.

"I like taking guns away early," Trump said. "Take the guns first, go through due process second."
Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if the y do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!
I believe SCOTUS has ruled on this. Trump is an idiot

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
Nothing says confidence like having to lie about your popularity. Not only that, there's been zero evidence voter fraud in the presidential election.

Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault
Said by the guy who threatened to sue anyone who released his grades right after he tried to get Obama's grades. Yup, nothing like a little projection of your own inadequacies. Besides, we've all heard him talk. Smart is a relative term to some. If you think Trump is smart, it says a lot about your intelligence.

Go ahead fuckers, support him if you want. The elections in 2020 are going to be a slaughter for the GOP. If they want to survive they are going to have to change and not rely on gerrymandering and voter suppression because Trump did the very thing they didn't want, he woke up the Democrats.
 

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Each party has it's own issues. I do know Trump gave me a pay raise . Both the Clintons and Obamas did not. Nor did they help the armed forces in any meaningful way. Each of us need to look at the person not just the party. I believe that a third party will make inroads the next few years as the sitting patrons are greedy and corrupt. Not all, but enough. they need to go. A third party strong enough can moderate the other two. Term limits must apply to all elected office's. Recalls should apply to all. Corrupt people should go to jail. The deep state should not be allowed to operate. Laws passed should always stand alone and not duplicate and confuse, law already in place. The supreme court should not in any way promote social change, PERIOD!!. All spending bills should be easy and single minded. No relative of any federal/ or state agency head should be allowed to profit from family in .gov. The courts should not be used to silence those who disagree with the powers that be.
Finally we are a Republic not a Democracy. And the Constitution is still valid and should be ruled on it's face, not on a theory from either side. But it is only my 5 cents worth. If you have not served in defense of this country ,you should walk softly.
 

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I prep no matter who is in office, my opinion matters not a whit at the national level. I always suggest sitting back and roll one or pour one depending on your preference, and think about what you can do to improve your position tomorrow. There is always going to be a politician out there that someone hates.
 

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Republicans impeached Clinton for far less but this, THIS, is a coup? The only people who think that are the people who share your ignorance and stay away from anyone who disagrees.

The only reason you support him is because you voted for him and you are too hard headed to admit you made a mistake. That's ok. The very people who continue to support him are the same ones getting hurt the worst.

I believe SCOTUS has ruled on this. Trump is an idiot

Nothing says confidence like having to lie about your popularity. Not only that, there's been zero evidence voter fraud in the presidential election.

Said by the guy who threatened to sue anyone who released his grades right after he tried to get Obama's grades. Yup, nothing like a little projection of your own inadequacies. Besides, we've all heard him talk. Smart is a relative term to some. If you think Trump is smart, it says a lot about your intelligence.

Go ahead ****ers, support him if you want. The elections in 2020 are going to be a slaughter for the GOP. If they want to survive they are going to have to change and not rely on gerrymandering and voter suppression because Trump did the very thing they didn't want, he woke up the Democrats.
The Republicans impeached Clinton because he committed perjury. He lied under oath. So what happened with all the Russian collusion nonsense that we heard about for three years? Absolutely nothing. It was a partisan political coup attempt on Trump. Nothing less.
 

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The Republicans impeached Clinton because he committed perjury. He lied under oath. So what happened with all the Russian collusion nonsense that we heard about for three years? Absolutely nothing. It was a partisan political coup attempt on Trump. Nothing less.
Do you have a response to the Senate Republicans report that showed an incredible amount of coordination between Trump and Russia or are you maintaining your willfully ignorance?

Please continue to make excuses for your crush. There was zero reason for him to not utilize the DOJ if he wanted an investigation in Ukraine. He didn't and I bet you can't give a reason why that was.

Also, Clinton wasn't removed from office. Trump was impeached JUST LIKE Clinton. You cannot change that. It happened. Stop the ignorant pretense that it's a criminal proceeding. It only makes your ignorance public.
 
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