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Might be wise to batten down the hatches. If this church in Florida burns the Quran(s) as they say they're going to do, it could be the catalyst that shows Islam for what it is and starts WW3.

Likewise, I read another article in which the imam pushing the mosque near ground zero is threatening that if he has to move it that could also inflame moslems throughout the world.

One one hand I'd like to choke the idiot pastor in Florida and the press who made him a worldwide sensation but on the other hand I'm tired of the United States (and the world) being held hostage by a religion whose reaction is to kill anyone who offends them. (While they show absolutely no respect for anyone else.)

In the end though it's just a matter of time until it all comes to a head. Islam is not compatible with democracy. Maybe we should just get it over with.

After it's over though, China will be the world's only super power. They have the fewest percentage of moslems and the tightest internal control over them so the damage from terrorists will be less for them. You can pretty much kiss North America and Europe good bye as the in-country moslems will destroy them.
 

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I never find it difficult to agree with you MMM, but as far as Islam destroying America, not a chance, they may hit population centers in areas where the people are jammed together and also tend to be more liberal and unarmed, the American Heartland belongs to us, those more like us and there they will step on their peepees..

Not to mention Israel , if the ******** decide to really take a shot at us I have no doubt that in the view of Israel it will be in their best interest to take out the hot spots..

Plus I really think if a few of the DC sell outs were to get hit the rest would grow a set out of fear and do what should be done... fear always out weights patriotism and Honor
 

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I don't mean destroying as in there will be no more "America." I'm talking more of North America (Canada might be in the same position) becoming more like a third-world nation. The percentage of muslims in both countries is too high to take the threat lightly.

The problem with in-house terrorists is that they can do a lot of damage to communication and power systems, disrupt food supplies and create a lot of havoc internally. Riots/destruction in even a few of our major cities will require a lot of resources to repair. Who knows how the feds will react/overreact to the situation, making it worse. If they can totally disrupt things for just a couple of weeks the damage will be massive. Not to mention the draconian "fixes" the government will probably impose. Look what happened as a result of 9/11. This could potentially be much worse.

We in the rural states will be better off than those in densley populated areas but we will all feel the impact.

Hopefully I'm wrong. We'll see.
 

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Pretty bad when you reply to your own post!

Don't forget the possibility of a Mid-East oil embargo either.
 

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All very true MMM and I guess I didn't look at your thoughts with an open mind...a fault of mine!! ;lol... I think they know that the Gov would flounder around and then pass stupid laws that only effect us not them...

Guess we will see.. but i fear your right...
 

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I've already made up my mind,
If they burn Qur'an at Fla.
I'm throwing Bibles in a wood chipper up here.

Turn about is fair play!
This idiot wants to make a splash, time for a counter statement!

Don't want the 'Open Fire' fine, so Wood Chipper it is!

I already own the wood chipper, and pulped paper makes good ground cover/compost...
 

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thing is... there is already a legal precedent put forth by the US Supreme Court that makes the Quran burning illegal, from a KKK cross-burning case (in Louisiana, I think) that stated that "free speech does not encompass speech whos sole purpose is to intimidate others" (more to it, but that's all I remember) but the hoi-paloi do NOT want to trot that out to stop this kook because THEN the public will want to know WHY this established legal precedent isn't used to stop the kooks that protest at soldiers' funerals &/or flag-burners...

IMHO of course

& JH, two wrongs STILL don't make a right, just sayin'
 

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But Blob, I'm not sure that would hold up, since the Florida church wasn't burning it for the purpose of intimidating others (muslims or anyone). The guy claimed it was because the book was evil, though we all know there was more to it than that. Other things are evil in the eyes of some deeply Christian people, and he wasn't throwing those things on the fire too.

It's too bad the 1st amendment has been made to stretch so far to cover things that common decency and respect never would have allowed or even attempted. Now all kinds of bizarre things have "rights".
 

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I've already made up my mind,
If they burn Qur'an at Fla.
I'm throwing Bibles in a wood chipper up here.

Turn about is fair play!
This idiot wants to make a splash, time for a counter statement!

Don't want the 'Open Fire' fine, so Wood Chipper it is!

I already own the wood chipper, and pulped paper makes good ground cover/compost...
People have been burning Bibles and flags over there for years. No one here has called for the death of all muslims over it. Don't be so blinded by your own prejudices that you can't see the truth. There really isn't much anyone can do for you until you see Islam for the intolerant, backwards, uncivilized, neanderthal religion it is.

If Moslems were really sensitive, peace loving, and forgiving as they and thier misguided advocates believe it is then why aren't they standing up against those who want to destroy everyone who "offends" them? Don't be one of their stooges.
 

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I think we have more than a few chruch groups with plans to burn now ... I think I will keep the scanner on today ...
 

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Second from the right, the tall skinny guy...that's our son! MMM and I are very proud of him.

They've stood out there in cold, drizzly weather all day (five hours so far) in memory of the firefighters and others who lost their lives that day.

A small sacrifice, compared to those brave folks who sacrificed everything that day.

I have to wonder how many people really feel the horror of how that day unfolded, and realize how terrible, how very awful, it was. How many have respect for the scars left behind on the survivors, the families of the victims, and even the witnesses who saw this horrible thing happen?

And they dare make light of it. They dare even voice that they don't understand why it would trouble someone to have a mosque built nearby? They dare say Muslims are a religion of peace when I don't hear them saying "we feel bad for what extremists of our religion did, let's move the mosque and not add to your pain".

We were living in a little town in SE Kentucky on 9/11/01, way back in the hills of Appalachia. Our little hospital had a doctor that we all assumed was Hindu or something. Our Pastor's wife was a surgical nurse at the hospital.

They were in the operating room together when word of the airplanes slamming into the trade centers came in. The doctor did a dance around the operating room yelling "praise Allah". I can't even put into words how that made us feel. I'm just sitting here trembling.

Yes, I know what people like Jeep are going to say, that "it wasn't the muslims", yeah, it wasn't, it was extremists of their religion, but they sure rejoiced. They danced in the streets of most of the countries in the middle east, they gave out candy and partied for hours, they burned American flags with a "yeah, yeah, take that, America".

You say "don't believe all you see on the media"...but first off, there was VIDEO of it happening. Second of all, we have friends that were THERE, serving in the military, who SAW a lot of this happening.

And even if there was more to it, and even if some in our own government had warning something was going to happen, that does not change the fact that a lot of innocent people died that day. A lot of people had dreadful, terrible deaths. A lot of brave policemen, firemen, and others risked and even gave their lives that day. Many still suffer from lingering effects from that day. The physical and emotional trauma will be with some forever.

Let's at least have some compassion for that.

Go ahead and play your silly games, people. Burn whatever books or effigies you want to burn. Throw them in your chipper/shredder. Pee on them. Whatever.

Whoopie.
 

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Second from the right, the tall skinny guy...that's our son! MMM and I are very proud of him.

They've stood out there in cold, drizzly weather all day (five hours so far) in memory of the firefighters and others who lost their lives that day.

A small sacrifice, compared to those brave folks who sacrificed everything that day.

I have to wonder how many people really feel the horror of how that day unfolded, and realize how terrible, how very awful, it was. How many have respect for the scars left behind on the survivors, the families of the victims, and even the witnesses who saw this horrible thing happen?

And they dare make light of it. They dare even voice that they don't understand why it would trouble someone to have a mosque built nearby? They dare say Muslims are a religion of peace when I don't hear them saying "we feel bad for what extremists of our religion did, let's move the mosque and not add to your pain".

We were living in a little town in SE Kentucky on 9/11/01, way back in the hills of Appalachia. Our little hospital had a doctor that we all assumed was Hindu or something. Our Pastor's wife was a surgical nurse at the hospital.

They were in the operating room together when word of the airplanes slamming into the trade centers came in. The doctor did a dance around the operating room yelling "praise Allah". I can't even put into words how that made us feel. I'm just sitting here trembling.

Yes, I know what people like Jeep are going to say, that "it wasn't the muslims", yeah, it wasn't, it was extremists of their religion, but they sure rejoiced. They danced in the streets of most of the countries in the middle east, they gave out candy and partied for hours, they burned American flags with a "yeah, yeah, take that, America".

You say "don't believe all you see on the media"...but first off, there was VIDEO of it happening. Second of all, we have friends that were THERE, serving in the military, who SAW a lot of this happening.

And even if there was more to it, and even if some in our own government had warning something was going to happen, that does not change the fact that a lot of innocent people died that day. A lot of people had dreadful, terrible deaths. A lot of brave policemen, firemen, and others risked and even gave their lives that day. Many still suffer from lingering effects from that day. The physical and emotional trauma will be with some forever.

Let's at least have some compassion for that.

Go ahead and play your silly games, people. Burn whatever books or effigies you want to burn. Throw them in your chipper/shredder. Pee on them. Whatever.

Whoopie.
I wish there was a "thanx" button for these posts :congrat:
 

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Firefighters - First in ... Last out ...

gypsysue ... Be sure to tell him "Thank You" - From one firefighter to another.
 

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Firefighters - First in ... Last out ...

gypsysue ... Be sure to tell him "Thank You" - From one firefighter to another.
Done!
He said "for those we serve..."
 

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Gypsie, our thanks to you for writing the post and to your son for is service and his honoring those who serve and died.
 

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Give that young feller a good slap on the back fer us! Tell em job well done an thanks!

If ya didn't loose someone important to ya that day, it's easy ta just let it rest. As I've said before, I lost a real good friend that day, he had a wife an kids.

As a preacher, it be in my nature to forgive, but I will never forget! Don't think these people er gonna have any use fer others not a there faith. They will quietly hide amongst us but when somethin like this happens there true colors come out. I don't trust em one bit. I deal with a few outa necessatiy but I still don't trust em.

Those that do er wearing blinders.

As fer burnin there holy papers er mine, I see no point in it. It does not destroy the faith only what that faith be written on.
 

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Thanks, horseman and coot. That means a lot to me. And I'll pass that on to our son.

I'm grateful yesterday passed in relative peace. The way things were building I wasn't sure if it might turn out to be the catalyst to worse things.

It's probably still coming though. Carry on with our preps!
 

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Had CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) trainin yesterday, yeah glad all was quite, but they said were planin on more trouble next year cause it will be 9/11/11 which be some islamic sign a sorts. So agree, keep on preppin yall.

God Bless
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Peaceful? Killing their own people and threatening to kill others because of the pastor's announcement to burn the Qur'an ..

CalgarySun said:
KABUL, Sept 12 - Afghans protested violently for the third day on Sunday despite a U.S. pastor giving up plans to burn copies of the Qur'an, with three other cases of desecration of the Muslim holy book likely to stoke their anger further.

Two protesters were shot and killed in eastern Logar province, a district official said, taking to three the death toll in protests staged since Friday.

The furor over pastor Terry Jones's plans to burn copies of the Qur'an, a grave insult to Muslims who believe it to be the literal word of God, overshadowed the lead-up to commemorations for the Sept. 11 hijacked airliner attacks on the United States.

Ceremonies in the United States on Saturday marked the ninth anniversary of the attacks by al Qaeda, which led to the toppling of the Taliban by U.S.-backed Afghan forces in late 2001 because the hard-line Islamists had harboured Osama bin Laden's group.

Jones's plan and proposals to build an Islamic cultural centre and mosque near the site of the toppled World Trade Center in New York highlighted a growing debate in the United States about religious tolerance.

Hundreds of people favouring and opposing the cultural centre and mosque gathered in New York for peaceful rallies hours after ceremonies in the city - and in Washington and Pennsylvania - to mark the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Word of the intention to burn the Qur'an had already triggered outrage in Afghanistan and across the Muslim world.

President Barack Obama warned it could hurt the United States deeply abroad, endanger U.S. troops in Afghanistan and risk attacks in U.S. and European cities.

"DEATH TO AMERICA"

In Afghanistan, angry protesters chanting "Death to America""and "Death to Christians""before clashing with security forces in Logar, south of the capital.

Seven demonstrators were wounded, one seriously, when Afghan security forces opened fire to disperse hundreds of protesters marching to Pul-e-Alam, the capital of Logar, officials said.

Mohammad Rahim Amin, chief of Baraki Barak district just west of Pul-e-Alam, said two of the wounded died later in hospital.

The protesters threatened to attack foreign military bases. There are almost 150,000 foreign troops fighting a growing Taliban-led insurgency in Afghanistan, where violence is at its worst since the hard-line Islamists were ousted.

"The governor must give us an assurance that the church is not going to burn the Qur'an, otherwise we will attack foreign troop bases in our thousands," protester Mohammad Yahya said.

Major Patrick Seiber, a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan's east, said ISAF was aware of more protests in Logar on Sunday, but put the crowd at about 100, some wielding sticks and throwing stones.

Four demonstrators were wounded in Logar on Saturday, a day after a protester was shot dead when an angry crowd attacked a German-run ISAF base in Faizabad in northeastern Badakhshan province, one of many protests across the country.

Protests had eased later on Sunday, but could spark up again as news filters through of reported desecrations of the Qur'an in the United States.

While Jones abandoned his plan, there were at least two incidents of abuse of the Qur'an in Lower Manhattan in New York on Saturday. Two evangelical preachers not affiliated with any mainstream church burned two copies of the Qur'an in Tennessee.

Protests over perceived desecration of Muslim symbols have led to dozens of deaths in Afghanistan in recent years, including after a Danish newspaper published a cartoon depicting the Prophet Mohammad in 2005.

On Thursday, the United Nations' top diplomat in Afghanistan said the protests risked delaying Afghanistan's Sept. 18 parliamentary election.

The election is seen as a key test of stability in Afghanistan before Obama conducts a strategy review of the increasingly unpopular war in December.

Obama, who has sought to improve ties with the Muslim world frayed by wars in Iraq and Afghanistan since the Sept. 11 attacks, stressed religious tolerance in remarks at a memorial service in Washington on Saturday.
You can read it on CalgarySun from Two Afghans killed during Qur'an-burning protests | World | News | Calgary Sun and comment directly to their comments section if you wish .. but, I would love to hear what you all have to say about this report ..
 

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Target rich environment? It has things I haven't seen in the American press. Seems they've clammed up.

I personally am tired of people walking on egg shells around these "peace loving" barbarians.
 
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