I'm new... actually I found you by searching kerosene versus propane (I'm looking into adding a couple propane heaters in case of another ice storm or whatever) & I'm so thankful I did. I'm been asked by people if I'm trying to get off the grid. People don't get me but all I want is for my family to have what we need. Like I tell my husband, I just want to start moving back to the way people used to live... back to work hard & grow what you can. We live on 11 acres & 1/2 a mile from a lake. My handicapped 16 yr old raises chickens for eggs. My 15 yr old raises a few head of cattle for meat (haven't processed one yet) & he & my husband are deer hunters & love to fish. We have a 5 & 3 yr old & now that they are older I want to start gardening again. My mom has even made fun of me(lightheartedly) for my stocking up on groceries. Long story short.... I hope this is the place that I've been searching for to help me start reaching some of my goals for my family.