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Discussion in 'General Preparedness Discussion' started by HarleyRider, Aug 17, 2010.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how prepared are you?
I'm not that good (yet)... I am probably a "2".
hey dont feel to bad we all have to start somewhere. I would say I'm a 1 just starting myself. what is Doral close to? i had lived in Pensacola for 2yrs before moving to georgia
Doral is about 15 miles west of Miami, just west of the airport.
Im proabably a 2 or 3. I have 8 - 10 gallons of water bottles stored. Water purification tablets. Grass net (the kind people use when planting grass or sod) makes a great gill net. a fire starter , A fishing rod with string and lures/hooks , A compound bow with 8 arrows. Also I am in a (near) perfect location. 2 ponds within 150 yards, a spring that fills one of those ponds (i found the exact spot where it comes out which is a great +) a 15 acre wetland behind my house with rabbits(lots of them), coyotes (occasionaly), some times I find dear tracks in my backyard. And the pond has some decent size fish. Also there is only 2 roads that enter my part of the neighbor hood. (easy to defend)
I'd like to think that we are about 8's for what we are preparing for. We have plenty of food of various types to go us "season to season", water, back up water source, genny, fuel, supplies, adequate weapons for hunting or protection, chickens and soon rabbits. We live way off the main road far enough so most with directions can't find us. We keep a low profile (as much as you can reasonably these days) and have a bit of cash set aside. We are working at being more self sufficient. We are still on the grid, but we do have several back up solar panels if the grid goes down.
I'm probably a "2" also. but I'm workin' on it.
72hr - I would be very comfortable - level 10
7 days - I would be very comfortable - level 10
1 month - I would be just fine - level 9
6 months - things would be getting a little hairy - level 5
1 year - I wouldn't know what I looked like in the mirror - level 2
5 years - I would hope that I got my butt in gear and brought myself back to a 10 again
NO Prepper can do it all at once and get it all at once. You have to start somewhere. Us? We started with open pollinated seed stock, have collected a starter of medical supplies, blackpowder hunting "equipment", crossbows, fishing gear, have a well, this is by pump, solar powered not an open well. Then there is a wood stove and boiler to get. But for being 100% prepared, it takes a community. No one can get all the smithing, woodworking, weaving, sewing, leather making, wheat flour making, candle and oil supplies, oh well, the list goes on and on when you talk of going back to an economy trade based instead of money based. Best trades depends on what you can do, grow, and make. And of course, what there is that people are used to having that is no longer available and what they need to survive. Our place for instance has water, but also can grow sugar beets from which brown sugar is made. Corn grows well here as well. That opens up both feed, and for those with sad hearts, a corn whiskey still. *chuckles*A girl just can't do without some things. Sugar and a bit of a nip to ease your mind will do for us.
I Am good for 90 days any season for food, water and shelter. Food holds me back. When I think I have it all figured out, something changes.
I'll approach this the same way Naekid did.
Out to 6 months, we would be quite comfortable. 10
1 year brings us down to about 7
As long as the goats and chickens keep reproducing and the fields are reasonably productive, we should be able to maintain that level.
We can cook and heat with wood, pump water by hand and work the ground with the people powered farm implements I've been acquiring for the last few years. We have enough fuel stored that if used conservatively would last about 2 years.
After that, it's a 19th century existence for us. What level is that?
Well, if you take my parents, my brother beercheer, and my "wingman," I'd say we're around a 2-3. I know we've got/can get food for a year, and water is no issue in our area either.
We've got decent tackle, a couple of crosspistols (small game), rifles from .22 on up, a few shotguns. So we can hunt all day long. Coming from a hunting background DOES have advantages! lawl
Medical supplies we're just starting on, but those should be up to par within the coming months.
My parents have also started a "food pantry" they are filling with nonperishable canned goods (on sale, offbrand, BOGO, etc), and homecanned goods from their garden (sadly, I didnt get to do my garden this year... :cry.
As far as power is concerned, I can take it or leave it (all I really use it for is the webernets, and all THAT is for is for keeping touch with my friends/family!). I've lived without it before, and I'm sure I will be again.
ALSO, in the next few weeks, a historical site up from my house is *supposedly* going to start taking volunteers, and a few of those spots REALLY intrest me (Blacksmithing, gunsmithing, leatherworking). So, I'm going to try and get a slice of THAT pie when I can! :crossfinger:
I like looking at it in time frames also, makes me feel better than saying I could not survive forever on what I have. I plan for no electric and limited outside contact.
72 hr. AOK, no change in lifestyle except no DVR. - 9. I’d give it a 10 if I could have TV, I’m addicted to that stupid box!!!
1 week. Same, good to go. Only thing that might be lacking would be fresh citrus fruits and fresh dairy products. Not a biggie we have alternatives. Need to find out the possible length and/or cause of this situation, this is the daily job. - 9.
1 month. Besides jonesing for TV we’re still smiling. By now we should have some idea of the situation and how long it might last. Rationing would be initiated to stretch supplies. If required, long term plans are being drawn up and implemented. – 9
6 months. Holding our own but we best be able to get something fresh from the garden to stretch supplies. Store bought canned good storage gone, FD #10’s are the staple for however long 9 cases will hold out. Bulk dried beans, rice and grains are being used by now. If no corn crop, we are out of booze; if no fruit, no wine/brandy either. This brings quality of life from a 9 way down. By this time we’ve setup some kind of greenhouse operation with the rolls of 6 mil plastic. For inside light we’d be down to woodstove glow and crank up radio light. Not a problem in the summer but winter nights are cold and long even down here. – 6
1 year. We’re down to eating what we can grow or kill. Still have staples: sugar, salt, pepper, TP… Enough cigarette tubes for another year (probably 2+ years since we would have rationed) then roll yer own for 6 months, after that carve a pipe. If the situation lasted this long we’ve taken to bartering. We’ve probably traded some of our backup tools and seeds for whatever we didn’t think of or whatever we had that broke and we could not fix. – 5
2 years. By this time our entire 1.5 acres would be cleared and growing our supplies. Store bought staples all but gone, maybe some sugar and such tucked away for celebrations. Bartering is the way of life. We would have a corn and barley connection, or some land to grow it on at least. My barter goods will be alcohol, tobacco, medicinal herbs and tinctures. My barter services would be carpentry, masonry, green thumb skills and general common sense. – 5 to 9
5+ years out. This is the 1800’s lifestyle. It will be what it will be. If this is what destiny has in store and I’m still alive then I’ll give it a 10.
I never put a 10 in any short term scenario’s, there will always be something that I would want that I could not get. Not NEED mind you, just want. Never went below a 5 either. I’ve lived without before and always managed. A person can survive with very little, you just have to accept the situation and do what you can to maintain. I can still vividly remember when I finally got electric to the farmstead. Standing in front of the light switch going “I have lights!”, “now I don’t”, “I have lights!”, “now I don’t”…
Now, if we had a catastrophic crop loss at anytime we would go from 5 to 0 in an instant. In a major SHTF situation I’m thinking there would be very little game available in my area and without a food crop our chances of surviving are nil.
You're in luck!! They DO make battery-powered TVs.
That puts you back to a 10. :congrat::congrat:
But, I’m still at a 9 because something like that is waaaaaay down the list of stuff I need to buy first. I’m not too proud to take donations though. :wave:
Let's see, I guess I am a 7 as far a stored food for 1year is concerned. Need just a bit more wheat and corn.
As far as food prep items like grain mill, dehydrator, solar oven, canning equipment, knives, can openers, etc. I am a 9.
As far as water is concerned I am a 5 because we have no well or gutters to get water.
I do have water stored for about a month or 6 weeks of drinking and cooking. I have
a water filter system. Still want a well, and rain barrels and gutters.
As far as gardening we are a 5 because we need more of our property made into food
growing gardens. We have seeds stored.
As far as lighting and heat we are about 7. We have many oil lamps, flashlights, candles, and we have a wood stove but no wood. That is what brings us down. We need to get busy on storing hardwood for our stove. I have buddy burners, hobo stove, and coleman gas stove, camping equipment for cooking over a campfire, and a propane
grill as well as a grill that we can use wood or coal in.
Medical is about an 8, we have just a bit more to get.
firearms and ammo is about a 5. We need more ammo and want one more shot gun.
how prepared are you?
Here is a true story of a settler and his Mormon family that settled in Arizona....1860's
They lived out of a prairie schooner for 3 years when they got to their final destination....They survived 3 winters by building a fireplace onto the side of the schooner....They ate moldy corn during the first winter, since food was scarce~!...Not until other Mormons gathered in the same area, did they get a small shack built....
No electric, no running water, no refrigeration, no cigarettes, no beer, no radio, no TV and no neighbors, except hostile natives.....Crude tools to try to grow food and whatever crude weapons of the day to hunt and protect the family....
So many people talk about prepping....What did those settlers have? Beans, rice, potatoes, corn and perhaps some seeds....Boiling water, if they even knew about waterborne virus's and whatever else can get you sick....
We have gotten away from basics and knowing how to live without today's conveniences....What will you do when the gas pump no longer works and without your hair dryer ladies?
Men, when you can't use the chainsaw anymore, because there is no gas, oil, or replacement parts, can you still swing an ax?
Sometimes I wonder on the men of Afghanistan living in the stone-age, that we think are cavemen.... Who will be the real survival of the fittest, living with the least?
Cavemen in Afghanistan, or the series survivor on a controlled island with TV camera's?
Pass the wild goat please with the pita bread.....
Firefox books, anyone?
just something to think about too how fat we really are, compared to cavemen and our settlers of old....And then the earth shattering KA-Boom was heard and the stone-age began again~!:gaah:
Just for the basic necessities of water, food, heat and shelter,
I am pretty convinced we could be living comfortably for about 2 years. (5 people)
However, all that food would probably be taken away real soon in an SHTF scenario and as far as security goes, we would not be able to make it one day. But that is the nature of things around here...
Well I guess a solid 5 all the way around I have enough food for my entire family and a few extras. As far as it goes for gear got enough of that for a bit and the know how to make what we might need minus the casings. But as always I feel I should be a whole lot better prepared and willing to share my knowledge.
Depending on the emergency, I'm anywhere from a 10 to a zero.
Simple power outage, 10
Cold snap, 7 (need to insulate the pumphouse, well head and under the house better)
EMP or nuclear event, 0
Lots of food, woodstove and plenty of firewood, oil lamps and plenty of flashlights, etc...not enough gas for the vehicles stored.
We've been thinking and planning on how to live in a 19th century environment for several years. These plans also included adding the farming implements that would be required.
We would rather not return to that way of life but if it should come to that, we are acquiring everything we think will be needed. As far as tools go, we're in pretty good shape. Psychologically? :dunno: I really like my chain saws and hydraulic wood splitter.