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On Sunday March 21, 2010 the Senate Healthcare bill HR3200 was passed and signed into law the following Tuesday.

Page 1004 of the new law (dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I quote: "Not later than 36 months after the date of the enactment"

H.R. 3200 section 2521, Pg. 1001, paragraph 1.

"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the 'registry')
to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that- ''is or has been used in or on
a patient
; ''and is- ''a class III device; or ''a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining."


Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/DeviceRegulationandGuid...

A class II implantable device is an "implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

Class III devises are items such as breast implants, pacemakers, heart valves, etc. A Class II device that is implantable is, as you seen from the FDA, an implantable radio frequency transponder, RFID chip. From breast implants, to pacemakers, to RFID chips which one is the only possible one that can used for the stated purpose in section B which is, "for linking such data with the information included in the registry"? As we know from subsection A, the information in the registry is the name of a device. In plain speak, we are in a clear way being told that our electronic medical records are going to be linked to a class II implantable device!


"The Secretary to protect the public health; shall establish procedures to permit linkage of information submitted pursuant to subparagraph (A, remember subparagraph A is the class 2 implantable device reference) with patient safety and outcomes data obtained under paragraph (3, which is electronic medical records); and to permit analyses of linked data;"

Continuing on to page 1007, in the STANDARDS, IMPLEMENTATION CRITERIA, AND CERTIFICATION CRITERIA section, the secretary of health and human services is given full power to intact all mandates from the laundry list of to-do items in the creation process of the registry as well as dictate how the devises listed in the National Medical Device Registry are to be used and implemented.

"The Secretary of the Health Human Services, acting through the head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, shall adopt standards, implementation specifications, and certification criteria for the electronic exchange and use in certified electronic health records of a unique device identifier for each device described in paragraph 1 (National Medical Device Registry), if such an identifier is required by section 519(f) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i(f)) for the device."

Notice here in this part which is at the beginning of 2000 plus pages of the law, it is carefully worded "which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identity detection card". Here we are told that it may be a card. As you have already seen, deeper in the law [Sec. 2521 Pg. 1000] what this "may" utilize is clearly spelled out as a "class II device that is implantable".

Now on Page 503, section E Lines 13-17 and I quote: "encourage, as appropriate, the development and use of clinical registries and the development of clinical effectiveness research data networks from electronic health records, post marketing drug and medical device surveillance efforts". Let me say that again, medical device surveillance efforts!

Now lets look at section 163 of HR3200, which gives the government a direct electronic access to your bank account which will work in conjunction with an implanted chip.

Page 58 Lines 5 through 15 reads:
(D) enable the real-time (or near real time) determination of an individual's financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility, which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identity detection card; (E) enable, where feasible, near real-time adjudication of claims

What does this mean? It means that the government will give everybody a health ID card that contains a machine readable device (magnetic strip or RFID chip) similar to a credit card. Embedded in this chip or strip is your Health Identification Number. When you visit a medical provider, the medical claims will be processed while you are still in the office. The medical providers will be paid in real time. The portion that you owe will be deducted from your bank account, in real time, according to HR 3200.

Read up on more: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants" - Patriot Action Network
 

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I don't think so!

It's good to not have to rely on medication to live, but I know there are millions of people who need medication. They need constant health care in order to survive, these will be the first to get this. It will be advertised and marketed very lovely to the people.
 

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Noone will ever force me to implant anything in my body.

Watched the Matrix again the other night.

"How about I give you the finger, and you give me my phone call"
 

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Hmmm ... well, how can I put this ... :club::club::club:

I don't think so ... :D
 

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Hmmm ... well, how can I put this ... :club::club::club:

I don't think so ... :D
Im such a big man on an internet forum.
Ill be cowering in a corner...
:D
 

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Umm. Anything I put is going to end up a rant...

So I'm just gonna say this sucks.
 

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Hmmm...if they try it, they might well have that revolution on hand that I keep expecting. It might be what it takes to push us over the brink and say "enough is enough" and back it up with action.
 

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They can try, but I got a feelin I'm gonna stick there chip someplace what they weren't expectin!:eek:
 

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And so begins the RFIDless underground... just like the guys who can disconnect the airbags on your car and it still runs.

Force me to do something and I'll show you how it ain't happening!:sssh:

ATB,

Bill
 

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Not to speak of chips causing cancer.Already in pets it was proven to cause cancer near the site.

A Roman Scholar once warned about what we have had leading us for past 55 yr.s.

A nation can survive it fools AND EVEN THE AMBITIOUS.But it cannot survive treason from within.An enemy at the gates is less formadable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amounst those within the gate freely,his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor,he speaks in accents familiar to his victom,and he wears their face and their argument,he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.He rots the soul of a nation,he works secretly and unknown during the night to undermine the pillows of the city,he infects the body politics so that it can no longer resist,a murdere is less to fear,THE TRAITOR IS THE PLAQUE.
 

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Not to speak of chips causing cancer.Already in pets it was proven to cause cancer near the site.

A Roman Scholar once warned about what we have had leading us for past 55 yr.s.

A nation can survive it fools AND EVEN THE AMBITIOUS.But it cannot survive treason from within.An enemy at the gates is less formadable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amounst those within the gate freely,his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys,heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor,he speaks in accents familiar to his victom,and he wears their face and their argument,he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.He rots the soul of a nation,he works secretly and unknown during the night to undermine the pillows of the city,he infects the body politics so that it can no longer resist,a murdere is less to fear,THE TRAITOR IS THE PLAQUE.
Marcus Tullius Cicero[anciant roman lawyer.And look what happened to Rome!:eek:

History repeating itself.While they entertain us they are taking away our freedom.We will not recover.

Like all dictatorships,many will die.

We allowed the Trojan Horse inside while the grim reapers made their plans.

We tried to fight them for our kids,but nobody else would join.

I did have the priviledge of telling them what I thought at a State Capital meeting several years ago though.
 

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Ok, so first, H.R. 3200 did NOT pass. It died in July of 2009 as seen here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200

Second, the Registry mentioned is a database used to "facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that" - meaning it is used to track the effectiveness and safety of devices such as pacemakers, artificial joints, and other devices currently being used so as to reduce the number of malfunctioning devices and to verify which devices are and are not performing to required standards. You can read the entire (failed) bill yourself here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200/text

Once you have the page open, push <ctrl>f and type "device registry" into the search field, then click the "next" button until you get to the section in question. Read it yourself. Stop listening to idiots who are spreading false rumors. There is more than enough true things to hate about the government, don't waste your time on garbage.
 

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Morgothic said:
Ok, so first, H.R. 3200 did NOT pass. It died in July of 2009 as seen here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200

Second, the Registry mentioned is a database used to "facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that" - meaning it is used to track the effectiveness and safety of devices such as pacemakers, artificial joints, and other devices currently being used so as to reduce the number of malfunctioning devices and to verify which devices are and are not performing to required standards. You can read the entire (failed) bill yourself here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200/text

Once you have the page open, push <ctrl>f and type "device registry" into the search field, then click the "next" button until you get to the section in question. Read it yourself. Stop listening to idiots who are spreading false rumors. There is more than enough true things to hate about the government, don't waste your time on garbage.
He may be a noob... but I like this guy!
 

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Ok, so first, H.R. 3200 did NOT pass. It died in July of 2009 as seen here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200

Second, the Registry mentioned is a database used to "facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that" - meaning it is used to track the effectiveness and safety of devices such as pacemakers, artificial joints, and other devices currently being used so as to reduce the number of malfunctioning devices and to verify which devices are and are not performing to required standards. You can read the entire (failed) bill yourself here: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr3200/text

Once you have the page open, push <ctrl>f and type "device registry" into the search field, then click the "next" button until you get to the section in question. Read it yourself. Stop listening to idiots who are spreading false rumors. There is more than enough true things to hate about the government, don't waste your time on garbage.
Psst knock off the truth and logic. The tin foil hat people have decided what they know and are likely to object.
 

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So - here we are - several months after March 2013 and what is the status of the RFID-chips?
 
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