Thank goodness I hate to lose more than I like to win or else this town can take it all from you. I'm an unemployed construction mgr. who is trying to start a new career on the internet, since that's where everything seems to be going. The construction industry has disappeared like the VHS, landlines, pay phones, pagers and soon fax machines in my opinion. I got involved with Sundance Global a new division of Efoods Direct and until 10-20-10 they are giving away Free food for people to try. The food is tasty and good for you so if you have ever thought about stocking up on long lasting food give it a try. Nevster Sundance Global - Saving one family at a time. I'm looking forward to learning more about planting food. Has anybody heard of the Aquaponics system where they use fish to fertilize the food?