Hello to all, I just registered on this site and this is my first posting. Currently living up in Manitoba, Canada and it's bloody cold here right now (-43 C with the wind chill). Been here for 15 years ... came here from the east coast with the Army ... got medically released ... got married .. we both work and raise 2 small children, we get by with our incomes ... not rich and not poor either. About 6 years ago I got involved with the stockmarket and it became my new hobby but the more knowledgable I became about business and economies ... the more that I became concerned about the state of the world. I also watch alot of news and try to stay informed about world happenings and I dont know but ever since the global economic crash in 2008-2009, it really got me thinking ... playing out doomsday type scenarios in my head ..like ... alot of what if's. More recently I have been really having this nagging feeling ...... I dont know if it's just a paranoid vibe ..... or a premonition or what .... but I just get the feeling like something really bad is coming . I have always been one to think & plan for the future i.e my kids, my retirement, saving financially but this is completely different ..... I have been thinking what if things really turn bad and society collapses? How can I be proactive and what steps can I take to ensure survivability of myself and my kids through such an event? Now I know there are certain events that I cannot plan for i.e. some kind of biblical apocalypse ... doesnt matter how reinforced my bunker is ..... it's not going to prevent that. But my biggest concern has been some kind of global melt down ...... governments collapse ..... food riots ... anarchy. So I have been giving serious consideration to moving out of the city to a secluded, rural location, ( it would be a longer commute into work but if the sh*t ever hits the fan it would be worth it ). Something with a good chunk of land to grow a sizeable garden, raise a cow or two and some chickens. And off in some remote corner of the property, I would like to excavate a large hole ( approx. 45 ' x 12 ' x 14 ') . Pour a concrete floor, gravel in corners for good drainage. Then have 2 x 40' foot shipping containers lowered in, side by side. Would have to insulate cuz it's damn cold here in the winters and damn hot here in the summers. I would cut some kind of hatchways so we could pass into each container. Cut a hole in the floor in one corner and drill some kind hole 50 ' down to be used as a crapper. I would have to have a couple of pipes / ducts leading to the surface for ventilation. I also read about creating electricity through exercise bicycles, an idea to investigate further. - Problem # 1: any kind of ventilation shaft coming out of the ground would alert marauders of your location so it would have to be camouflaged. - Problem # 2: any noise coming from these vents would compromise existance / location of your underground shelter. - Problem # 3 : If such a catastrophe involved NBC (Nuke, Biological, Chemical) , shelters ventilation would require installment of expensive , complicated air filtration exchange system. Once both containers were securely in place and stabilised, I would need to create some kind of hatchway leading to / from the outside world. Then coat all of containers exteriors with some kind of waterproof sealant and insulation foam spray before finally encasing both containers in approx. 6-12 inches of concrete and finally covering the hole back up with dirt and planting lots of grass etc. as concealment and make as inconspicuous as possible and then start adding 3-6 months worth of supplies. ( fill large storage tanks for water, non-perishable food, tools, axe, saw,warm clothing, lots of books, flashlights , batteries, board games, collapseable military cots, lots of vegetable seeds). And for hunting, self-defense purposes I would be sure to have a .22 semi-automatic rifle , 12 gauge pump shotgun, Enfield .303 and a pistol. I know that I'm looking at somewhere in the area of $50,000.00 to make this happen but ... when I start thinking / picturing my family starving or worse .... I think it would be money well spent. Sorry for typing out such a long winded story here but this is my idea please feel free to tell me what you think or any helpful suggestions, questions, comments, queries would be appreciated.