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I'm literally sitting here mouth open in shock.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has acknowledged an Indiana dealer's cooperation in conducting straw purchases at the direction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Exclusive documents obtained by Gun Rights Examinershow the dealer cooperated with ATF by selling guns to straw purchasers, and that bureau management later asserted these guns were being traced to crimes.

From the confidential source providing the documents:

The dealer…was sent a "demand letter," based on the number of traces to him, which was retracted after his attorney pointed out they resulted from his cooperation with ATF. (Strangely, he got two voicemails from two different ATF people, both saying they were the head of the tracing operation).

Some of the straw men turned out to have felony convictions, the agents called the FBI background check system and fixed it so the transactions would be approved, something which may also have happened in Phoenix. (The attorney wasn't clear as to whether the guns were actually delivered to the gangs).

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Its all in the plan.It has been in the works for generations now.But the time was not right until recently.
All those fools who are doign the will of the illuminati will be no better off thn the rest of us,they are being used like other dictators used their own people to do their persecutions.
Why do you think they are defending these terrorist , coyotees and drug lords? Why did they ignore all the warnigns about 911 ? FBI agents who spoke out about the threats were fired or worse.
 

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You can’t push for firearm legislation unless you have bad guys. How do you make sure there are enough bad guys?

You can’t have a war on drugs unless there is someone to war with. How do you make sure there is someone armed to war with?

You can’t have a war on terror unless there is someone to threaten terror with. How do you make sure the world is full of terrorists?

The only part that sucks is when you get caught setting these things up. Then it takes some fast talking and even faster legislation to get your agenda through. But don’t worry, they will get whatever they set out to get, that is the way the system is set up!
 

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But don't worry, they will get whatever they set out to get, that is the way the system is set up!
I mentioned it before, but I found The Overton Window to be an extremely enlightening read.
 

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You have to wonder why the Obama Administration deliberately armed the Cartels. Did they get campaign contributions funneled to them somehow? Did they do it as a way to try to get stricter gun control laws passed in the U.S.? Do they see increased violence in Mexico as a good thing? Or does that mean the Cartels might carry out some useful assassinations for them in the future? I don't believe that it was a well-intentioned operation that went bad.
 

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You have to wonder why the Obama Administration deliberately armed the Cartels. Did they get campaign contributions funneled to them somehow? Did they do it as a way to try to get stricter gun control laws passed in the U.S.? Do they see increased violence in Mexico as a good thing? Or does that mean the Cartels might carry out some useful assassinations for them in the future? I don't believe that it was a well-intentioned operation that went bad.
Obama is just another puppet on the grand scale of things,no worse or better than Kennedys ,Carter ,Reagans ,both Bushs,Clintons . They are all under the rule of NWO.All have infltrated this nation with enemies,all have supplied terror and drugs lords with arms and protection,imo.
Also they all work with europe and The Americas and other nations.
 

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Bill,

Consider the possibility of arming your enemy, so you have someone to fight!
 

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The CIA has been funding their ops since they were founded in the 40's after hiring Nazi war criminals to work for them and train them. Drugs and Guns have funded them for a long time. So now the ATF have joined the game! The CIA has trained and funded almost every known terrorist in the world through drug and illegal contraband sales. And you wonder why the world hates us? :ignore:
 

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How else do you expect the criminals to protect themselves from the cartels? :D

All kidding aside, sometimes criminals need to be allowed to think they are succeeding in order to gather enough evidence to make a conviction stick.
 
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