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Are there any type of fireworks that would or could be used to discourage looters in a SHTF event. If there was a way to lay a cherry bomb or M-80 near some trespassers/looters/generic scumbags, and encourage them to shop/loot elsewhere. I am thinking could you build a large slingshot and launch a cherry bomb maybe 70 yards....?
 

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Tannerite would be be the way to go.
Lots of videos on youtube if you want to see it.
1/2 or 1 pound would be an adequate deterrent.
 

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Are there any type of fireworks that would or could be used to discourage looters in a SHTF event. If there was a way to lay a cherry bomb or M-80 near some trespassers/looters/generic scumbags, and encourage them to shop/loot elsewhere. I am thinking could you build a large slingshot and launch a cherry bomb maybe 70 yards....?
I will have to send you photos of the one I made out of 1/2" pvc pipe, 1ft pieces about 20 of them strapped together in a cylindrical shape. Fill with bottle rockets, or any rocket that have a delayed explosion, point at the intruders or looters, then light the rockets, pandemonium at the receiving end. Can be reloaded very fast for next round if need be. This is mounted on a tripod so it may swivel from side to side. Can also be ignited with a electric match attached to a thin wire remotely.
 

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It's legal in all 50 states (unlike a lot of fireworks).

It's a binary agent that's incredibly stable. It requires a rifle round to get it to explode.
But is it available to anyone. When I went to buy some Dupont Dynamite, which we early homesteaders and miners had free access too prior-911, I was told I could only buy it if I had a Federal "Master Blasters" License.
 

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It's legal in all 50 states (unlike a lot of fireworks).

It's a binary agent that's incredibly stable. It requires a rifle round to get it to explode.
SOooooo, I would be shooting toward people, hell I might as well shot the SOB's and save the ammo wasted setting off a bang'thingie. As it is now I get a lecture from the State Troopers, about Brandishing every time I greet some trespasser with my happy'face & a AR-15.
 

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SOooooo, I would be shooting toward people, hell I might as well shot the SOB's and save the ammo wasted setting off a bang'thingie.
I'm confused... You're willing to launch cherry bombs up to 70 yards in your first post (where you have little control of where they'll land and therefore no control whether they'll hurt someone) but aren't willing to take an accurate shot at a pre-placed target. If you had several tannerite targets pre-placed, you decide which to shoot. You could start with a target 200' away from the poachers. If that didn't discourage them, you pick one a bit closer until they get the point.
 

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That's the way I see it. Nothing like a little explosion to get the feet moving in the opposite direction. :D
 

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Now just so you know, tannerite CAN be detonated without shooting it. Back in April, one of the locals over here mixed up a quart sized batch of the stuff and stuck a fuse in it to see if it would work. He lit the fuse and started walking away but the fuse burned too fast.

So the stuff exploded, he was almost killed and had to be flown out to Portland for emergency care.

It made the local news right here:

Lewiston Tribune Online
 

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Now just so you know, tannerite CAN be detonated without shooting it. Back in April, one of the locals over here mixed up a quart sized batch of the stuff and stuck a fuse in it to see if it would work. He lit the fuse and started walking away but the fuse burned too fast.

So the stuff exploded, he was almost killed and had to be flown out to Portland for emergency care.

It made the local news right here:

Lewiston Tribune Online
I'd be willing to bet that either it's a Tannerite "like" explosive or the person had a large blasting cap in the mix. Tannerite CAN NOT be lit by fire.
 

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I'd be willing to bet that either it's a Tannerite "like" explosive or the person had a large blasting cap in the mix. Tannerite CAN NOT be lit by fire.
I haven't heard of Tannerite before, so, I figured that I would do some reading up on it.

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Now why is there so much fuss over Tannerite. All a punk would know about Tannerite is that, it's a binary impact detonate explosive. The hack is to mix a jar of white stuff with some grey stuff and get it kicked by a high speed amunition (30-06 round) from 50m distance. Well Stallone didn't do the same stuff in The Specialist, the explosive experts can tell you better. Primarily Tannerite is sold as explosives for police use or to control avalanche. But now that its a legal explosive for unlicensed users the concerns are rising. Tannerite is fast growing as a home made explosive.

More because Tannerite is easily available at Tannerite.com.

There is much ado about Tannerite being used as a potential threat as an explosive. I'll let you the rudimentary to elborate things for you to decide. Tannerite combines two components, a sensitizer and a bulk material. The sensitizer is a mixture of 90% dark flake aluminium powder, 5% Titanium and 5% zirconium hydroxide. The bulk material is a mixture of 85% ammonium nitrate and 15% ammonium perchlorate. To generate a less sensitive Tannerite a mixtures of ammonium nitrate and aluminium powder would do.

The grape-wines suggest, domestic terrorist are using this stuff to wreak havoc. There are certain incidents in favor of such apprehensions. On January 14th, 2008 a man in Red Wing, Minnesota detonated a 100 lb tannerite inside the bed of a dump truck by shooting it. Impact of the blast was felt at the Prairie Island Nuclear Power Plant.

The apprehensions cannot be grossly overlooked. There are voices against the legal status of the explosive. Still, it needs to highlighted that tannerite needs to be detonated by a high speed detonator, say a bullet. Hardly would a terrorist avail the risk to shoot the explosive only to see his head blow out before he could pull off the trigger. Most importantly, the bottomline reads even if Tannerite is totally prohibited that wouldn't stop the assassins from manufacturing their own explosives.
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Mix 5% aluminum powder with 95% Amonium Nitrate fertilizer.

You can get the aluminum powder on E-Bay or a chemical supplier, if you can't find it anywhere else.

The fertilizer must be 34-0-0, and it will likely come in a time-release granule, so you'll have to grind it up in a food processor, or you could pistil and mortar it, or smash it with a rolling pin or whatever.
Finally - the Wiki on Tannerite: Tannerite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Something that I found out is that the Amonium Nitrate (AN) is very susceptable to moisture. You must keep all sources of moisture away from the AN as it will soak up moisture from the air. If you plan to set the Tannerite for a "rainy-day", and try to set it off a year later, it may not give the expected reaction.

I am sure that there are ways of keeping it perfectly preserved in a mixed state for later use, but, I don't know if I would want to set it up and forget about it for a couple of years. Does anyone have information on how long it will last in a mixed state, ready to use?
 

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I am sure that there are ways of keeping it perfectly preserved in a mixed state for later use, but, I don't know if I would want to set it up and forget about it for a couple of years. Does anyone have information on how long it will last in a mixed state, ready to use?
When purchased, both agents are shipped and stored in plastic containers. You just add a small scoop of the one agent to the bulk product, twist on the lid and shake. As long as it stays dry (which it should in the plastic container), I wouldn't see any issue with it sitting but I don't know anyone that has mixed it up and let it sit for extended periods.
 

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I think this sounds like a bad idea on many fronts. :nuts:

Here are ten reasons to reconsider:

1) You are launching explosives towards people.
2) You can't control where they land.
3) After they go bang, you can't necessarily prove what they were (when the BATFE asks).
4) If stored in quantity, they could leave your home a smoking hole.:eek:
5) If someone gets hurt by a "warning explosive," you are opening up lots of legal liability. At 70 yards, it's hard to say that they were an imminent threat to life and limb. :dunno:
6) If you weren't trained by the military and you weren't a chemistry major, you could mess up and leave your home a smoking hole. :gaah:
7) Ever walk across carpet in leather soled shoes and then shock yourself on something metal? You might go kaboom if you touch your explosives. :kiss:
8) Buying materials for your chemistry experiment could get you in trouble. :surrender:
9) You could become a Darwin awards candidate.
10) Your last words might be "Hey Bubba, check this out..."
 

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I think this sounds like a bad idea on many fronts. :nuts:

Here are ten reasons to reconsider:

1) You are launching explosives towards people.
2) You can't control where they land.
3) After they go bang, you can't necessarily prove what they were (when the BATFE asks).
4) If stored in quantity, they could leave your home a smoking hole.:eek:
5) If someone gets hurt by a "warning explosive," you are opening up lots of legal liability. At 70 yards, it's hard to say that they were an imminent threat to life and limb. :dunno:
6) If you weren't trained by the military and you weren't a chemistry major, you could mess up and leave your home a smoking hole. :gaah:
7) Ever walk across carpet in leather soled shoes and then shock yourself on something metal? You might go kaboom if you touch your explosives. :kiss:
8) Buying materials for your chemistry experiment could get you in trouble. :surrender:
9) You could become a Darwin awards candidate.
10) Your last words might be "Hey Bubba, check this out..."
Screw it.....I'll just shoot them........and feed them to the bears for breakfast.....:eek:
 

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I do think large firecrackers would stop an intruder at least long enough for you to get to the phone & call for help or get to your weapon.
 

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Screw it.....I'll just shoot them........and feed them to the bears for breakfast.....:eek:
My kind of plan!

Then again, in my "hooligan" days, we used to launch bottle rockets out of 1/2" PVC pipe, 5' stick of it. Used it like a bazooka/RPG, but had a designated reloader. After about, oh, say 20-30', it'd fly straight up in the air and go KABOOM! :D

Ya know what you REALLY need? You REALLY need the D.O.D! :2thumb: "PREPARE TO DIE, EARTH SCUM!!!" If THAT dont deter them...:scratch
 

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I was told by a respectful gentleman at a local gun show who was selling tannerite that it is legal to transport only while the components are seperated. Once they are mixed, it is considered an explosive.
 
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