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Dont get me wrong i like him alot. but with the end of social security, Medicaid, and other handouts. it only makes sense to me that every welfare momma's gonna starve then riot. sure they can smoke pot but that shouldn't deter them from smashing windows in stores for food when they get the munchies.
 

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Ron Paul would not necessarily put a stop to the programs in question. He is only interesting in limiting the federal government's involvement in entitlements. He believes such initiatives should be left up to the states themselves.
 

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First off, that aint gonna happen. Not that RP cant win, but the end of all 'handouts' as you put it. That just wouldnt be the way it would go down. Noone would honestly advocate the end of all social welfare programs, that would be lunacy.
Even I with my own wacky views on the way things should be cannot fathom that.
You could not just cut everyone off from welfare, public housing, social security, medicaid, medicare, etc, it would be the end of the US, and complete chaos.
Not to mention the world instability that would be caused by cutting off all foreign aid, which I am all for.
 

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First of all social security is not welfare to those who paid into it.it only became welfare when it was stolen by leaders from and given to those who never paid a dime.
SSI is forced insurence.Don't ever call us welfare recipiants when we paid more into that ponzi scheme every month than most people made ,sometimes 1000s every month.Not to speak of the employers matcing it. Many of our relatives paid into it and died before they ever collected a penny.
If we are welfare beneficiaries so are all of you who pay auto ,home insurence while uncle ham bails out others who don't pay.
So cut the crap aout us being on welfare.Tell the truth for a change and stop being PC.Its the ones havign all the kids they can't feed that suck up the welfare,not hard working americans.:mad:
 

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Also that little big mouth Paul has no problem taking his pay from the gov coffers,so he can kiss my ass ,that goes for all the others who get paid to vacation and take payoffs.
 

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RP can not win, he's so far out in right field, he's actually under the bleachers.

His "plan" won't work in the real world... but having said that, I haven't seen any plan that I believe will work.
 

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First of all social security is not welfare to those who paid into it.it only became welfare when it was stolen by leaders from and given to those who never paid a dime.
SSI is forced insurence.Don't ever call us welfare recipiants when we paid more into that ponzi scheme every month than most people made ,sometimes 1000s every month.Not to speak of the employers matcing it. Many of our relatives paid into it and died before they ever collected a penny.
Most people are expected to receive more from the Ponzi scheme than they ever paid into it.

Many welfare recipients have actually paid into the system.

It's an extremely complex issue that is going to take some cahones and resolution to solve.
 

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I happen to live in Ron Paul's district. First of all, if he were to get elected, he can't do anything without a willing Congress. Secondly, he is above all else pragmatic. He is not going to go in there and start eliminating programs.

Partdeux....the correct spelling is Cajones.
 

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RP doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of receiving the nomination. Regardless how you feel personally about him, that is the cold hard fact.

No one person in the WH is ever going to right this listing Ship of State. Currently, 47% of people here do not pay ANY income tax. Many still get a refund under the Unearned Income Credit, which is absolutely ridiculous.

There is a large segment of our urban population that to this day are only a razors width away from savages, and demonstrate that fact often in the form of "flash mobs", robbing, stealing, killing.... Just look at how many have been shot over the past holiday weekend in Chicago and NYC! These people feel entitled and want everything you have.

Illegal immigrants from Mexico and South American have been allowed a considerable foothold in our country with the aiding and abetting of the socialist/communists of our own elected government. Many state coffers are being sucked dry because if it. Do you think our marxist government cares? Hell no! They want the weakening of our society and the chaos that will follow.

Muslims have also been allowed entry, even from the islamic countries that hate America. For what purpose? Unfortunately, I think we will all find out soon enough and we won't like it very much.

I won't even get into our massive debt. The point being that adding one good apple to the barrel of rotten ones will never work out for our benefit if that benefit is a restoration of freedom and liberty. Its too late. A massive "cleansing" is what is called for, and however cojones is spelled, they aren't big enough for it.
 

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I agree: there is no way in Hell that Ron Paul will carry the nomination. He has some good points, a few good ideas, but a lot of really out-in-right-field ideas that won't fly with most Republicans, let alone moderates and Demo-rats.

Now, if the issue which the original poster is suggesting is the pulling of social aid programs leading to rioting, which in turn could lead to destabilization... yeah, that could happen if it were to effect a large enough portion of the population.
 

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First of all social security is not welfare to those who paid into it.it only became welfare when it was stolen by leaders from and given to those who never paid a dime.
SSI is forced insurence.Don't ever call us welfare recipiants when we paid more into that ponzi scheme every month than most people made ,sometimes 1000s every month.Not to speak of the employers matcing it. Many of our relatives paid into it and died before they ever collected a penny.
If we are welfare beneficiaries so are all of you who pay auto ,home insurence while uncle ham bails out others who don't pay.
So cut the crap aout us being on welfare.Tell the truth for a change and stop being PC.Its the ones havign all the kids they can't feed that suck up the welfare,not hard working americans.:mad:
I know of two mothers, one married--one not, that receive SSi/disability and both have daughters that get a check monthly...why??? one has a daddy!!
Why???? should a child that never worked/paid into a system get a huge check every month when there are parents working two jobs to pay into the system and hardly make ends meet and live from paycheck to paycheck.
Socialism has been here for a looooong time---we just don't call it redistribution of monies like it should be called...

And to make us feel even worse--both those girls have no funds set aside for later when TSHTF---straight to chinamart when that check comes---fast as they can go to buy the latest junk!!
 

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RP has many great ideas that will ensure he doesnt get the nomination however he has helped change the dialogue in a positive way. Many of the things he suggested years ago are now being discussed by other politicians now.

Were he to get the nomination and win he would not and could not end entitlements overnight but what he could do with them would save our country trillions and get us on the right track to recovery and possibly eventual dissolution of the welfare state.

I have to applaud most of what he has done and/or tried to do. He is not perfect but if you are waiting around for perfect politicians before you back one of them then you are not involved in the political process cause you will never find a perfect politician.
 

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IF Ron Paul wins,our corporate masters in Europe will arrange an act of nuclear terrorism or a plague.
 

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RP doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of receiving the nomination. Regardless how you feel personally about him, that is the cold hard fact.

No one person in the WH is ever going to right this listing Ship of State. Currently, 47% of people here do not pay ANY income tax. Many still get a refund under the Unearned Income Credit, which is absolutely ridiculous.

There is a large segment of our urban population that to this day are only a razors width away from savages, and demonstrate that fact often in the form of "flash mobs", robbing, stealing, killing.... Just look at how many have been shot over the past holiday weekend in Chicago and NYC! These people feel entitled and want everything you have.

Illegal immigrants from Mexico and South American have been allowed a considerable foothold in our country with the aiding and abetting of the socialist/communists of our own elected government. Many state coffers are being sucked dry because if it. Do you think our marxist government cares? Hell no! They want the weakening of our society and the chaos that will follow.

Muslims have also been allowed entry, even from the islamic countries that hate America. For what purpose? Unfortunately, I think we will all find out soon enough and we won't like it very much.

I won't even get into our massive debt. The point being that adding one good apple to the barrel of rotten ones will never work out for our benefit if that benefit is a restoration of freedom and liberty. Its too late. A massive "cleansing" is what is called for, and however cojones is spelled, they aren't big enough for it.
One Trick 'my pony'[ the name they called ,me for talking about the Trojan Horse ] and I have tried to tell this ,but they won't get it till the fat elephant in the room sits on their heads.
Talk radio was discussing this the other night.How millions of illegals are getting paid billions for all their foreign kids they bring in .Then their senior citizens get aSSI check,free medical care,shelter,food and even a &*(&[email protected]*^ free cell phone.
Get out of jail free card,free weapons from Obombs ATF.Free mosque over the bodies of Americans,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,.
 

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IF Ron Paul wins,our corporate masters in Europe will arrange an act of nuclear terrorism or a plague.
I agree,or an assasination.They don't take too good to those who don't agree with their 'plans'.
Google 'Clinton Body Bags'if you have all day to read the list of mysterious deaths and suicides.Very enlightening.
There is no one safe from a traitor.

An anciant Roman Scholar said it best a few thousand years ago ,Marcus Tullis Cicero,106BC.

A nation can survive its fools,even the ambitious.But it cannot survive treason from ithin .An enemy at the gates is less formadable,for he is known and carries his banner openly.But the traitor moves amounst those within the gate freely,his shy whispers rustling through all the allys,heard in the very halls of government itself.For the traitor appears not a traitor;he speaks in accents familiar to his victims,and he wears their face and their arguments,he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men,he rots the soul of a nation,he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city,he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.A murderer is less to fear.The traitor is the plaque.
 

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I agree: there is no way in Hell that Ron Paul will carry the nomination. He has some good points, a few good ideas, but a lot of really out-in-right-field ideas that won't fly with most Republicans, let alone moderates and Demo-rats.

Now, if the issue which the original poster is suggesting is the pulling of social aid programs leading to rioting, which in turn could lead to destabilization... yeah, that could happen if it were to effect a large enough portion of the population.
Roger that, Turtle.....no way RP will get the nomination.

In as much as "social aid programs" being pulled.....have you noticed that none of the hopefuls have even whispered about that? They talk about Social Security and Medicare only. I feel as though food stamps, Section 8, etc. will go on forever....it would be "polically incorrect" to not continue these programs forever.

Also, didn't Obummer's speech (plan) Thursday night include extending unemployment benefits for an additional year? Let's see....99 weeks presently plus an additional year equals almost 3 YEARS! I find it hard to believe that most people can't find a job in 2 years....but 3 years....makes me wish I could get "laid off"!
 

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There is a large segment of our urban population that to this day are only a razors width away from savages, and demonstrate that fact often in the form of "flash mobs", robbing, stealing, killing.... Just look at how many have been shot over the past holiday weekend in Chicago and NYC! These people feel entitled and want everything you have.
You can add the longshoremen in Washington to this list of savages!:mad:
 

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Roger that, Turtle.....no way RP will get the nomination.

In as much as "social aid programs" being pulled.....have you noticed that none of the hopefuls have even whispered about that? They talk about Social Security and Medicare only. I feel as though food stamps, Section 8, etc. will go on forever....it would be "polically incorrect" to not continue these programs forever.

Also, didn't Obummer's speech (plan) Thursday night include extending unemployment benefits for an additional year? Let's see....99 weeks presently plus an additional year equals almost 3 YEARS! I find it hard to believe that most people can't find a job in 2 years....but 3 years....makes me wish I could get "laid off"!
If I could get unemployment benifits for 3 years I will be close to social security retirement time. Yahoo! No more answering to the Man! :D
 

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You can add the longshoremen in Washington to this list of savages!:mad:
And nobody has been arrested ... from what I have read ...
 

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If I could get unemployment benifits for 3 years I will be close to social security retirement time. Yahoo! No more answering to the Man! :D
uuhhhmmm... doesn't SS come from 'the man' :p ;)

or as David Icke would say,"the serpent men"

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