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I don't know what to say about this!!! A shotgun used to kill six people because the eggs were not cooked to perfection!?!?

Six dead after argument over eggs | World | News | Calgary Sun

CalgarySun said:
A Kentucky man went on a shooting rampage that left six people dead after arguing with his wife about how she cooked his breakfast eggs, reports say.

Stanley Neace, 47, killed his wife, stepdaughter and three neighbors in a Mount Carmel, Ky., trailer park Saturday, then turned the gun on himself as police arrived, the Lexington Herald-Leader reported.

Britain's Telegraph newspaper, quoting Kentucky State Police, said Neace chased his wife through the trailer park in his pajamas, firing dozens of shots from a 12-gauge shotgun before cornering her in a neighbour's mobile home.

Kentucky police identified the victims as Sandra Neace, 54; her daughter Sandra Strong, 28; neighbours Dennis Turner, 31; Teresa Fugate, 30; and Tammy Kilborn, 40.

Neighbors told the Herald-Leader they heard shots and screams, then saw Stanley Neace chasing Sandra Neace around a Jeep, shooting out the vehicle's windows.

Sandra Neace ran to Turner's mobile home, and Stanley Neace followed. There he killed Sandra Neace, Sandra Strong, Turner and Fugate, who was visiting Turner, the Herald-Leader said.

Breathitt County Deputy Coroner Mitch Smith told the newspaper two of the women were killed in a back bedroom and Turner and one of the women were killed in a bathtub. They were clothed, he said, and Turner was on top of the woman, perhaps trying to shield her.

"There was really nowhere to hide," Smith said. "Literally, all the witnesses are dead."

Two neighbors said one of Fugate's young children ran out of that mobile home and into Tammy Kilborn's home.

Kilborn hid the child in a bathroom, but Stanley Neace, who had followed the child, shot Kilborn in a hallway of her home, the Herald-Leader said.

State police said they have not established a motive for the rampage, but the Herald-Leader and other Kentucky newspapers quoted a relative of several of the victims saying Stanley Neace became enraged because Sandra Neace cooked his eggs in a way that displeased him.

Residents of the trailer park said the entire incident, from the initial argument to Neace's suicide, lasted about an hour.

Trailer park landlord Ray Rastegar said he had begun the process of evicting Neace because the unemployed man had become increasingly hostile to neighbours in recent months, the Herald-Leader reported.

Rastegar said Neace had lived in the trailer park for about seven years.

Neighbour Steve Smith told the Herald-Leader Nease and his wife had been arguing for a week, but he didn't know why.

"He's been trouble ever since he's been here. He's always been trouble," Smith said.
Now, with reading that, it makes me think that building a better protection-system around our homes will be required to keep the crazies away.
 

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That's not far from where we used to live. When we were living there, in the last half of the 90's, there was a family a few miles away with 2 teenage boys. The dad, Frank, was violent, and more than once Frank, jr., who was 15 at the time, came to our place in fear. One day Frank sr. killed his wife (mother of Frank and his brother) with a tire iron because he didn't like the way she folded his socks. Frank Jr. and his younger brother (I can't remember his name) crawled out a window and ran for help, but it was too late.

I can't find it on a search. It was near Linefork, Kentucky and the man's name is Frank Fields, Sr. As far as I know he's still in prison. This area is about 17 miles west of Whitesburg.

I also cleaned house for a man who hit his 6-year old son over the head with a chunk of firewood while I was watching. I reported him (like a dummy) and his whole extended family threatened to swear to all kinds of nonsense abuse about me toward my kids in retaliation if I didn't recant my story. I recanted my story, got a better job, saved money, and moved to Montana. I was a single mom at the time. About 10 years later the boy passed out at school. Tests at the hospital showed old fractures of his skull and other bones as well as scar tissue build-up under his skull.

Many more stories I could tell...
 

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:mad: ARGH!!! :mad:

Some people shouldn't breed ... :(
 

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Wow. And we wonder why the people are f***ed up. We laugh at cartoons/comics/sitcoms that are full of trash-talk and disrespect, but it's adding to the shaping of our society in a negative way.

Maybe it's not so funny any more.
(Thanks, tpr, for bring this to our attention)
 

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Wow. And we wonder why the people are f***ed up. We laugh at cartoons/comics/sitcoms that are full of trash-talk and disrespect, but it's adding to the shaping of our society in a negative way.

Maybe it's not so funny any more.
(Thanks, tpr, for bring this to our attention)
I hate to see parent's use the boobtube for a babysitter. It is nothing but 90% pure garbage, crap that is watched by 3-5 year old's. How the he!! could you stay halfway normal. 24 hours a day that is there to frigg peoples heads up. :( What you say is fact it has done some damage to the less than solid brains.
 

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Wow. And we wonder why the people are f***ed up. We laugh at cartoons/comics/sitcoms that are full of trash-talk and disrespect, but it's adding to the shaping of our society in a negative way.

Maybe it's not so funny any more.
(Thanks, tpr, for bring this to our attention)
that Naruto shot has NOTHING to do with the wording on it, that's basically a mysogynistic version of a LOLCATS pic
you might as well relive the 80's and blame Dungeons & Dragons...
it's the same as trying to ban Hansel & Gretel because you are afraid kids will bake the babysitter :nuts:
cartoon violence has been around for more than 100 years (Katzenjammer Kidz 1897)
these people are already predisposed towards violence, they did NOT start out 'normal' & then have their violent tendencies programmed into them by The TV Machine
heck, Popeye used to solve all of his problems by punching them

IMHO exaggerated cartoon hyper-violence can be a cathartic event as it doesn't involve real people & provides a backdrop for even very young children to realize that shoving some form of explosive in an enclosed space & detonationg it is BAD, mmmkay...

of more danger is the attitude that so many things are 'learning experiences' for children & they shouldn't be punished for their actions... HTF are they supposed to learn anything if there aren't any consequences... many are raising a generation of PIMPS

child withholds affection from parent or stops being 'friends', parent relents & bribes with new x-box, kid makes parent feel that s/he will forgive parent 'this time'... if they go get the new <<insert popular title>> game, right NOW...
pimp withholds affection from hooker or stops giving her 'his love' because she hasn't made enough $$$... hooker goes out, does more/riskier tricks, brings $$$ to pimp, pimp slaps her around for being 'late', makes her feel she deserves it, then gives her 'his love', 'this time', for finally producing

am I wrong? :dunno:
 

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Wow. And we wonder why the people are f***ed up. We laugh at cartoons/comics/sitcoms that are full of trash-talk and disrespect, but it's adding to the shaping of our society in a negative way.

Maybe it's not so funny any more.
(Thanks, tpr, for bring this to our attention)
It's just someone who thinks they're funny. What happened was rival ninja were infiltrating the village, and Naruto socked one he thought was dressed up like his friend. I just felt the black humor image parodying the moment fit here. The actual dialogue is significantly different. Naruto is a "clean" (albeit violent) show; I'd happily let my kids watch it once they hit teen years.
 

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Now, with reading that, it makes me think that building a better protection-system around our homes will be required to keep the crazies away.
Seems to me that someone in that whole trailer park ought to have been able to shoot that guy down while he was blowing windows out of the car while his victim was dodging pellets.
That would have saved at least 3 lives.
 

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Seems to me that someone in that whole trailer park ought to have been able to shoot that guy down while he was blowing windows out of the car while his victim was dodging pellets.
That would have saved at least 3 lives.
maybe (most) people on THIS forum would, but 'normal' folks (sheeple) ? doubtful...

ever see Fight Club?
 

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Seems to me that someone in that whole trailer park ought to have been able to shoot that guy down while he was blowing windows out of the car while his victim was dodging pellets.
That would have saved at least 3 lives.
And then be arrested and sent to jail for murder. Everyone knows that's how the law works and that's why they don't do it.
 

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And then be arrested and sent to jail for murder. Everyone knows that's how the law works and that's why they don't do it.
More likely everyone hunkered down and waited for the shooting to stop, protecting their own families. In my opinion, it's not a matter of people not caring or being afraid of the law, it's a matter of them wanting to be alive the next day to send their kids to school. You take care of your own first. That's why wars are fought by kids fresh out of school and not family men. Kids are full of testosterone and are willing to be a hero simply for the glory of having done so.

It's a shame for the dead that there were no such persons nearby, but what if there was? We might be hearing about one more casualty. A desire to do good does not protect you from the consequences of combat, and there's a line between heroic and stupid. So let's say some guy goes out and shoots him, but gets shot himself. His children are now without their father and for what? To save the life of some stranger? The medal his widow will receive from the town won't pay the bills or wrap it's arms around her in the middle of the night.

You have to pick your battles and we weren't there. Also, some folks DID try to help her. They ended up dead for their good actions. We weren't there and frankly it was a trailer park. I have my doubts his shotgun was the only weapon nearby. How many of you can honestly say that you are prepared, right now, to stand up and kill a guy whanging buckshot at a lady who ran into your house?

Gosh I'd sure try, but... that's zero to deadly violence in a few seconds. I don't like my odds. But if it were going on in my neighborhood? I'd chamber one in my own shotgun, have the wife get her revolver ready, cover the doors and stay away from the windows. Good intentions don't make you bulletproof, and watching for a "chance to strike" is a good way to get yourself killed. I love my neighbors, but I love my wife more.
 

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a clear case of self defense even if he was shot in the back of the head. This guy was clearly a threat to everyone within shotgun range.
Absolutely. No court in the land would indict. You might get arrested for it initially, but you won't see charges. The law doesn't expect you to jump up and yell "stop, evildoer!" and then go to the street in front of the Long Branch and have a fair draw while Miss Kitty watches from the doorway.

One of the people hunkered down defending his own family taking a shot of opportunity if it came up would be hailed as a hero, frankly.
 
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