I said i would most likely not but i got off my arse and finialy went and took the saftey class. I,ve always thought the 2nd gave me all the right's i need, but the guberment see's it diffrent i reckon. So i went ahead to make the state happy. $75 and 8 hr's later the test was easy at least i thought so, got 100% so it had to be, lol. Range test 7 yard's every one shot the center out of it. I did learn that having one will make a bigger spotlight on ya even if it's a clear case of self defence. After i get the paper work back go to the sheriff office and pay another $60. They send ya a notice to come in and get a photo and sign in. About 90 day's i reckon. The fee's are going way up in other states and i know ky. will follow that. They are trying to rake up every penny they can. Some states it's double or tripple the fee's i paid and i think it will get a lot harder to get. I think in the long run it will pay off. If it's avialable i,d get one kinda just to cover ya but anyway. They will get harder to get and the fee's will go no where but up. So $135 later i'll be set for one, what's the process and fee's in your state. We also have open carry.