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Atheists keep proving they have become the most irritating people on Earth

When did atheists become so teeth-gratingly annoying? Surely non-believers in God weren't always the colossal pains in the collective backside that they are today? Surely there was a time when you could say to someone "I am an atheist" without them instantly assuming you were a smug, self-righteous loather of dumb hicks given to making pseudo-clever statements like, "Well, Leviticus also frowns upon having unkempt hair, did you know that?" Things are now so bad that I tend to keep my atheism to myself, and instead mumble something about being a very lapsed Catholic if I'm put on the spot, for fear that uttering the A-word will make people think I'm a Dawkins drone with a mammoth superiority complex and a hives-like allergy to nurses wearing crucifixes.

These days, barely a week passes without the emergence of yet more evidence that atheists are the most irritating people on Earth. Last week we had the spectacle of Dawkins and his slavish Twitter followers (whose adherence to Dawkins' diktats makes those Kool-Aid-drinking Jonestown folk seem level-headed in comparison) boring on about how stupid Muslims are. This week we've been treated to new scientific research claiming to show that atheists are cleverer than religious people. I say scientific. I say research. It is of course neither; it's just a pre-existing belief dolled up in rags snatched from various reports and stories. Not unlike the Bible. But that hasn't stopped the atheistic blogosphere and Twitterati from effectively saying, "See? Told you we were brainier than you Bible-reading numbskulls."

Atheists online are forever sharing memes about how stupid religious people are. I know this because some of my best Facebook friends are atheists. There's even a website called Atheist Meme Base, whose most popular tags tell you everything you need to know about it and about the kind of people who borrow its memes to proselytise about godlessness to the ignorant: "indoctrination", "Christians", "funny", "hell", "misogyny", "scumbag God", "logic". Atheists in the public sphere spend their every tragic waking hour doing little more than mocking the faithful. In the words of Robin Wright, they seem determined "to make it not just uncool to believe, but cool to ridicule believers". To that end if you ever have the misfortune, as I once did, to step foot into an atheistic get-together, which are now common occurrences in the Western world, patronised by people afflicted with repetitive strain injury from so furiously patting themselves on the back for being clever, you will witness unprecedented levels of intellectual smugness and hostility towards hoi polloi.

So, what's gone wrong with atheism? The problem isn't atheism itself, of course, which is just non-belief, a nothing, a lack of something. Rather it is the transformation of this nothing into an identity, into the basis of one's outlook on life, which gives rise to today's monumentally annoying atheism. The problem with today's campaigning atheists is that they have turned their absence of belief in God into the be-all and end-all of their personality. Which is bizarre. Atheism merely signals what you don't believe in, not what you do believe in. It's a negative. And therefore, basing your entire worldview on it is bound to generate immense amounts of negativity. Where earlier generations of the Godless viewed their atheism as a pretty minor part of their personality, or at most as the starting point of their broader identity as socialists or humanists or whatever, today's ostentatiously Godless folk constantly declare "I am an atheist!" as if that tells you everything you need to know about a person, when it doesn't. The utter hollowness of this transformation of a nothing into an identity is summed up by the fact that some American atheists now refer to themselves as "Nones" - that is, their response to the question "What is your religious affiliation?" is "None". Okay, big deal, you don't believe in God, well done. But what do you believe in?

Today's atheism-as-identity is really about absolving oneself of the tough task of explaining what one is for, what one loves, what one has faith in, in favour of the far easier and fun pastime of saying what one is against and what one hates. An identity based on a nothing will inevitably be a quite hostile identity, sometimes viciously so, particularly towards opposite identities that are based on a something - in this case on a belief in God. There is a very thin line between being a None and a nihilist; after all, if your whole identity is based on not believing in something, then why give a damn about anything?
 

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Are atheists really more in your face about their views than theists? Not in my experience. Theists are annoyed by atheists, atheists are annoyed by theists. Is this new info for anyone? Lol
 

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Are atheists really more in your face about their views than theists? ...
Some are. I think atheism is just a new fad for those rebelling against authority or just mad at the world (or God).
 

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Of course there are going to be individuals that are going to be more outspoken (the anti-theists for example). In general, I would say we don't. Ever had a group of atheists show up at your door trying to convert you or stand outside the grocery store handing out pamphlets and accosting your children? Happens with theists constantly.

Atheists have always been around and always will be. We can't hate something that we don't believe exists.
 

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Are atheists really more in your face about their views than theists? Not in my experience. Theists are annoyed by atheists, atheists are annoyed by theists. Is this new info for anyone? Lol
I am not annoyed by the concept of atheism, I believe that (God gave us...) freedom, which allows us all to chose to enter into relationship with the other and also gives us the ability not to, is fundamentally a good thing. It doesn't bother me to see someone make the choice not to believe any more than it bothers me to see a fat man stuffing his mouth gluttonously, or a lazy man sitting on his backside, or someone abusing drugs or alcohol. Sure, I think it is a bad thing, and if that person chooses to come into relationship with me, I sure will tell them, but ultimately its their choice, and freedom is an absolute good, even though it can be abused.

That being said, I take issue with militant atheists who are more fideistic about atheism than Christians--of course Catholic Christianity is not fideistic in that we believe Faith is simply another path to knowledge of truth and that Faith and Reason must harmoniously seek an ever greater knowledge of Truth.

I particularly take issue with those who make libelous historical claims about Christianity without any evidence, those who pretend that "science" can disprove a reality that is beyond the physical, and those who make the ahistorical claim that (mono)theism, and particularly Judeo-Christianity, has not offered a unique moral grounding for law, that is independent of the positive laws and will of man, that has been necessary in the development of the concept of the rule of law, human rights theory, and western democratic ethics.
 

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Of course there are going to be individuals that are going to be more outspoken (the anti-theists for example). In general, I would say we don't. Ever had a group of atheists show up at your door trying to convert you or stand outside the grocery store handing out pamphlets and accosting your children? Happens with theists constantly. ...
Who is it that's trying to eradicate any mention of God or prayer in the public school systems? Who is it that's filing lawsuits against religious displays?

We hear a lot about Christians who homeschool because of the anti-Christian bias in public schools yet I know atheists who homeschool because there's too much "religion" taught in the schools. (Talk about revising history!!! How can you teach the history of Western Civilization without religion?)

By "new fad" I mean that there are people who think it's somehow "cool" or "modern" or "smart" to be atheists.
 

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Everyone should be opposed to school sponsored prayer. How do you know which version of Christianity any particular teacher is going to be using or even Christianity at all? How would you like it if a Muslim teacher had your child pray to Allah every day? School starts with a moment of silence to allow all students to pray on their own or just sit there quietly if they want.

Nobody is banning any mention of religion in school, it certainly has a place in history or world religion or humanities. It doesn't have a place in science class. There are bibles freely available or any child to checkout in the library at my kids' elementary school. The school frequently hands out and sends home announcements and events sponsored by the local churches.

If the SCOTUS has determined that it is in fact illegal to have school led prayer or to only allow certain religions to put up displays on government property then people have every right to sue. I'm willing to bet there are plenty f Christians that would be doing the same if it were any other religion doing so.

Right now in OK, we have two lawsuits against the state because of Christians that object to the picture of a statue on our car tags named the "Rain God" and that making us have our thumbprints scanned to get a drivers license is against their religious beliefs.
 

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This is one of those deals where the evidence is so prevalent that I don't know where to start. Atheists have no tolerance or respect for widely held beliefs and for a group that disavows the existence of god they sure try awful hard to eradicate any mention of Him. Here are just a few samples of atheist lawsuits. There were literally pages and pages of them on a simple Google search under "atheist lawsuits."

Anti-Religion Group Blasts Teen Valedictorian's Prayer
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...-group-blasts-teen-valedictorians-prayer.html

'In God We Trust' Lawsuit: Freedom From Religion Foundation Sues To Remove Phrase From Currency
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/in-god-we-trust-lawsuit_n_2867227.html

Group Aims to Silence Prayer at Football Games
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/group-aims-to-silence-prayer-at-football-games.html

School Cancels Graduation Over Prayer Controversy
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...ncels-graduation-over-prayer-controversy.html

School Bans Religious Graduation Songs
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-bans-religious-graduation-songs.html

The lists went on and on. Most of these are from Fox news simply because they had the easiest links to follow. Other news outlets carried the same stories.
 

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Everyone should be opposed to school sponsored prayer. How do you know which version of Christianity any particular teacher is going to be using or even Christianity at all? How would you like it if a Muslim teacher had your child pray to Allah every day? School starts with a moment of silence to allow all students to pray on their own or just sit there quietly if they want.
Perhaps in some places this is true, but I would hazard a guess that in most places where people want to pray communities are largely homogeneous. Perhaps not all one denomination but largely Christian or wholly Judeo-Christian.

The fact is that constitutional "Separation," a word used not once in the Constitution, but by Jefferson in a correspondence, never meant what you suggest. In all honesty, perhaps this is because the Founders never envisioned a day when the Hindu or Muslim god would possibly be prayed to, but nonetheless, religious divisions notwithstanding American's prayed together throughout the first 200 years of our history usually not by appealing to the lowest common denominator, which today is nothing, but by RESPECTING each other. We respected each other enough to allow a person, whose faith you might totally reject, to be chosen to pray publicly in their own fashion, while you remained free to join them, or not. At the root of this was a civic religion, which was inherently theistic, and believed that if your neighbors wanted to pray for you, even if you thought they were praying wrongly, you should accept their prayers, because it was polite and good form, and because respecting each other's desire to pray commonly for the common good fosters a healthy respect for the common good!!! This is why for 200 years Chaplains of all different denominations and creeds have attended to the needs of legislators, police, the soldiers, etc., who often did not share a creed--most particularly the US Congress from the day of its inception. We have had Catholic Chaplains to the Senate and House who ministered to protestants and vice versus. And, if some day a large portion of the house or senate was Muslim or Jewish and chose to select a co-religionist then that too would be ok. (Although it would make no sense to have a Imam if there were no actual Muslims in the Congress...for the sake of diversity!)

You can try to bait believers into the type of bigotry that you presume they already have but to be honest with you, if there were a sizeable Muslim population in my town, I would have no problem with a Muslim leading a prayer at a public event even though I have real problems with Muslim morality, theology, and culture. I would not pray with them, in the sense of to their god, but I would pray to my God as they pray to theirs. I have no problem with Muslims praying for me, what really bugs me is Muslims trying to kill me--usually we don't pray for those we want to kill. Having a Muslim Imam in a largely Muslim town lead an opening prayer at a graduation or sports game, doesn't force me to be a Muslim, but it does make the Muslim community feel plugged into and a part of American Culture, it does make them feel respected,it does communicate their good will to the non-Catholics, and it does encourage me likewise to pray for the common good.
 

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You found some links to lawsuits. So? I never said no atheist ever filed a lawsuit. I clearly said some people mainly anti-theists are pretty outspoken. Not all atheists are anti-theists or want religion done away with altogether. The ONLY thing we have in common is lack of belief in a higher power. Any other ideas are solely up to the individual. There are no rules or set of beliefs we commonly hold or have to follow. So what if they do file lawsuits? Anyone in this country has the right to do so if they wish. It isn't an atheist phenomenon.
 

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Everyone should be opposed to school sponsored prayer. How do you know which version of Christianity any particular teacher is going to be using or even Christianity at all? How would you like it if a Muslim teacher had your child pray to Allah every day? School starts with a moment of silence to allow all students to pray on their own or just sit there quietly if they want.

Nobody is banning any mention of religion in school, it certainly has a place in history or world religion or humanities. It doesn't have a place in science class. There are bibles freely available or any child to checkout in the library at my kids' elementary school. The school frequently hands out and sends home announcements and events sponsored by the local churches.

If the SCOTUS has determined that it is in fact illegal to have school led prayer or to only allow certain religions to put up displays on government property then people have every right to sue. I'm willing to bet there are plenty f Christians that would be doing the same if it were any other religion doing so.

Right now in OK, we have two lawsuits against the state because of Christians that object to the picture of a statue on our car tags named the "Rain God" and that making us have our thumbprints scanned to get a drivers license is against their religious beliefs.
I had to lookup on Google what that is all about, and, it reminded me of a controversial licence-plate that was on a car in Ontario ...

I found a picture of it for you ..
 

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You found some links to lawsuits. So? I never said no atheist ever filed a lawsuit. I clearly said some people mainly anti-theists are pretty outspoken. Not all atheists are anti-theists or want religion done away with altogether. The ONLY thing we have in common is lack of belief in a higher power. Any other ideas are solely up to the individual. There are no rules or set of beliefs we commonly hold or have to follow. So what if they do file lawsuits? Anyone in this country has the right to do so if they wish. It isn't an atheist phenomenon.
At least it's nice to know that atheist have the same problem Christians do ... a few big mouth morons give ammunition to those who want to tar everyone with the same brush.
 

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I don't meet religious people who think they know it all. On the other hand I meet atheists who think they are the only ones who've got it all figured out. The type who think they are the only ones who have the intellectual superiority are common in that movement.

I don't care that you are Godless, or 'religionless'. I myself don't call myself a Christian, because I don't behave like I think one should. I love bashing hypocrites, and that isn't necessarily Christian. I like to find the mouthy atheists intentionally provoking religious people on the internet and beat them about their cranium for being cowards. :) Now to be fair I like to bash phony Christians for advocating the death and near genocide of a people in Israel just because they think it will bring Jesus back faster. You're going to Hell for that one. Jesus knows when it's time.

Some atheists tried (or cried) :cry: to get a lighted outline of MERRY CHRISTMAS removed from the local Fire Station....and failed. :laugh: It was all over local news that they failed. Must've been infuriating to have lost that one. :partydance: Good. Now go find a worthy cause, instead of trying to use government to mandate behavior. They're still crying about a prayer said in about every Southern college football stadium before games start.
 

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Atheists are a religion because their religion tells how we got here. (We evolved from pond scum.) And it tells what happens to us after we die. (We rot.)

Having said that, there are no true honest atheists. An agnostic would admit that God could exist somewhere in the universe. But atheists don't. Not only that, they always have a hatred towards God, Christians, and Christianity. My favorite expression from these people is something like this, "I couldn't believe in a God who..." In other words, I refuse to acknowledge a belief in God because He doesn't run his universe the way I would. Atheists are really people who believed once but their infantile faith was destroyed by reality and they've never forgiven God for that. It's pretty pathetic, really.

My faith is the most important thing in my life. It's impacted every area of my life. I've taken the time to get to know God through prayer, reading the Bible, going to church, and listening to Christian music and podcasts. I've seen God work in my life and the lives of others. The proof of our faith is not what we've done on our own but what God has done in our lives. If you're a real Christian, God will change who you are by the work of the Holy Spirit and the circumstances of our lives. It shouldn't be a surprise that a Christian's life is often harder than that of a nonbeliever. Like how the winds in the desert can carve rocks into beautiful shapes, God uses adversity to make us who we are. I just hope that what I went through has made me into the person that God wants me to be.

We're saved by admitting before God that we're a sinner who deserves hell. We accept what Jesus did on the cross as payment for those sins. Salvation is like a gift under the Christmas tree. It's not really ours until we accept it. We repent of our sins. We accept Jesus as Savior and Lord. We turn away from our sins and do the best we can to live a pure life. If you feed yourself spiritually and follow God with your whole heart, God will change who you are in many good ways. Unfortunately, I know a lot of professing Christians who don't care about obedience. They don't care about the Bible. They have the same bad attitudes of a nonbeliever and you have to wonder if they're really saved.

Some day Jesus will judge every human that ever lived. The people that go to hell will be punished for what they've done. People who go to heaven who were saved will be rewarded based on how they lived for Christ while they were here. And of course, the people who died before the age of accountability will automatically go to heaven. And the people who died without hearing the gospel will be judged based on what they did with what they knew.
 

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Atheists suck. they have forgotten reality, forgotten their primal reality, they deserve what they get.
 

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Sorry BillS ...

There are a number of christians who accepts the scientific theory of evolution. I'm sure you would not see them as a "TRUE" christians but that is up to you and them.

Just so you know ...
 

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That's a fact. And it's not just Christians. I've listened to a Rabbi teach on the written Torah (Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Numbers). The direct statement, twice, was that Jews don't believe the stories, accounts, versions, chronology of that scripture to be literal, absolute, concrete fact.

How many people know that atheists used to be called infidels? For example, James Madison wrote a letter to Thomas Jefferson regarding a religious test that had been proposed to be within into The Constitution:
On New York, Oct 17, 1788:
One of the objections in New England was that the Constitution by prohibiting religious tests, opened a door for Jews Turks & infidels.
Madison is stating this should be a Christian nation and we don't want to invite Jews, Muslims or the nonbelievers in infidels. An infidel was generally someone with no belief in a monotheistic entity. Today the TV and radio wants everyone in the West to believe they're infidels, which is false.

This was already an old struggle because infidels and Jews had been within the country since founding of some of the key cities. Per wiki:
There is a long history of Jews in Charleston, South Carolina. The charter of the Carolina Colony, drawn up by John Locke in 1669, granted liberty of conscience to all settlers, expressly mentioning "Jews, heathens, and dissenters."
Pretty clear how non-Christians and "atheists" were looked upon during our founding. ON a side note about the Jews, these weren't the European Jews of Germany. They were the Sephardic Jews like the shop owner in Hardcore Pawn. And if you're wondering what they were doing specifically in Charleston, you can answer that with one word: slavery. More infidels.
 

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Evolution, as preached by atheists is crap. Things change and adapt.the infamous "iceman" would have been incapable of
producing offspring with a modern human and he was only 3000 years old or so.I have to back BillS here[a sign of the apocalypse]
Humans as we know them were either imported from elsewhere or modified on the spot by something or someone.we can piss and moan about who and what until hell freezes over however.there is too much proof that we are NOT from this neighborhood, and NO proof of some silly ass, knuckle dragging mythical ancestor known as the "Missing link" because he simply does NOT exist UNLESS there were just two, and their offspring were so radically different they were a completely new species, but that would be like a boa constrictor laying chicken eggs. :p
 
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