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I betcha that the Obama health care plan partially relies upon the executive order that the Feds have the authority to control medical staff as they do the military, for example, like England, they can direct a nurse to work where they want him or her rather than where that person wishes to work, cause them to be 'assigned' as in moved, just like military personnel, at the cost of their licensing or registration if they fail to follow instructions. This can be enacted when a shortage is labeled a 'crisis'.

A large percentage of medical people wanted the Obamacare, but don't even know what the possibilities are.
 

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Sorry I don't know how to link. I found this info by searching for executive orders.

10997 deals with fuel, electrical power & minerals
10998 deals with food & farms
10999 all modes of transportation
11000 all civilians to work under federal supervision
11490 establishes control over all citizens, businesses & churches
11921 President can declare a state of emergency that is not defined
12919 Cabinet officials to be ready to take over all aspects of economy
13010 FEMA to take conttrol over all government agencies
12656 federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage & price ocntrol, controls all travel the list goes on & on

Some pretty scary stuff. I had always thought I was well informed about what was going on but I guess not. These "laws" were hidden in other bills that were passed by congress such as the health care bill. Some have been in place for quite some time.
 

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Linking is easy , either type the web address in ie www.preparedsociety.com
or open what you want to in a different tab or window and then highlight the address box (left mouse button) then right mouse button and select copy , go back to where you want the link and select paste (right button)
hope this helps and makes at least some sense
 

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A large percentage of medical people wanted the Obamacare, but don't even know what the possibilities are.
I work in a hospital. NO ONE I work with was for Obamacare. Not a single nurse, not a single doctor. In fact I had a long discussion with one of the orthopods- said they were considering not taking any form of insurance at all, and making the office workers contract labor.
Well, I take that back. We had a traveler at the time Obamacare passed that accused us all of being racist because we didn't vote for Obama, or support the health care bill.
 

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Vote me out of the obamacare fiasco. It either needs to be repealed or seriously tweaked. It's a nightmare for everyone, even the medical community and health insurance companies.
 

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I work in a hospital. NO ONE I work with was for Obamacare. Not a single nurse, not a single doctor. In fact I had a long discussion with one of the orthopods- said they were considering not taking any form of insurance at all, and making the office workers contract labor.
Well, I take that back. We had a traveler at the time Obamacare passed that accused us all of being racist because we didn't vote for Obama, or support the health care bill.
That's good to hear, we're overrun by Libs. Doctors are smart in general, they know that Obama care is going to be a travesty, but there are some nurses out there who aren't up to snuff. glad to see there are more with reason out there.
 

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You know I find it funny, no one I have spoken to about Obamacare wants it. They say that the public was split almost 50/50 over this bill. Well the 50% that wanted it doesn't live around here. I also belive this bill was rushed thru so fast that no one knows all it contains including the ones that voted for it.
 

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You know I find it funny, no one I have spoken to about Obamacare wants it. They say that the public was split almost 50/50 over this bill. Well the 50% that wanted it doesn't live around here. I also belive this bill was rushed thru so fast that no one knows all it contains including the ones that voted for it.
I agree. I only know of one person in my circle of friends that is for it. That makes it about one out of fifty for me. That is a long way from 50/50. I loved it when Nancy Polosi said on TV that they had to pass it so we could find out what was in it. What a insult to the American people.
 

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You know I find it funny, no one I have spoken to about Obamacare wants it. They say that the public was split almost 50/50 over this bill. Well the 50% that wanted it doesn't live around here. I also belive this bill was rushed thru so fast that no one knows all it contains including the ones that voted for it.
That's funny, Clarice....I was about to say not in my area either, and then I saw you were in AR too :)
 

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I see you didnt list them all..but your point got across...the powers that be are constantly working on ways to become more powerful..just imagine what they will do once they manage to render the Constitution totally irrelevent which they are trying to do on a daily basis....well, on second thought they dont pay much attention to it anyway.."let the unwashed keep their piece of paper.."we" are above it anyway" attitude is sickening and disgusting..it seems Obama has read up on the Executive orders..ie: land grab out west...trying to control all water..bammycare..etc..etc..tell you this..the next two yrs cant pass fast enough for me
 

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Many of those executive orders were created during the cold war when there were serious fears of foreign attack. Though I am all for limiting government in our day-to-day lives, there are some legitimate reasons that a government would have to take control of national assets. The reality is, the government usually fails to use such powers when they could really be effective. The government, at all levels, failed to address hurricane Katrina in a timely manner. Even this BP oil fiasco should have had more government intervention. It took Obama over two weeks to send in the environmental protection agency because he was assured by BP that they had things under control. Look at how many states were ultimately effected.
Personally I believe that big business and corporations are so powerful nowadays that they would seriously hamper any governmental efforts to address an emergency. The first thing that they will be asking is not who can I help, but how am I getting paid.
 

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Sorry I don't know how to link. I found this info by searching for executive orders.

10997 deals with fuel, electrical power & minerals
10998 deals with food & farms
10999 all modes of transportation
11000 all civilians to work under federal supervision
11490 establishes control over all citizens, businesses & churches
11921 President can declare a state of emergency that is not defined
12919 Cabinet officials to be ready to take over all aspects of economy
13010 FEMA to take conttrol over all government agencies
12656 federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage & price ocntrol, controls all travel the list goes on & on

Some pretty scary stuff. I had always thought I was well informed about what was going on but I guess not. These "laws" were hidden in other bills that were passed by congress such as the health care bill. Some have been in place for quite some time.
Clarice,
You do realize 11490 revokes the previous orders you cited. :sssh:

The title of 11921 is "Adjusting Emergency Preparedness Assignments to Organizational and Functional Changes in Federal Departments and Agencies"

You may be reading more into these than is really there, JMHO :flower:
 

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You forget LI perceptum, directive 51, ""which claims power to execute procedures for continuity of the federal government in the event of a "catastrophic emergency". Such an emergency is construed as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions.""

When the SHTF this is what will happen.

LI perceptum (latin for directive 51).
 

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When the SHTF this is what will happen.

LI perceptum (latin for directive 51).
Why does that sound sooo familiar, oops Area 51, yeah that's it.

I'm afraid we will have to "trust" our government and give it wide latitude should SHTF. May the Lord give us sound leaders when that time happens.
Wouldn't trust this BHO administration to get the newspaper for me.
 

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A large percentage of medical people wanted the Obamacare, but don't even know what the possibilities are.
I'm a nurse & I know of only one. How excited would you be for the federal govt to be taking over your profession? We medical folks aren't stupid nor are we naive about the consequences of govt regulations. We deal with those consequences on a daily basis.
 
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