American Homeless Woman Faces 20 Years in Prison for Sending Child to School

WoW!

Don't send your kids to school ... and go to jail. Send your kids to the 'wrong' school ... and go to jail. Don't pack your kids lunch ... you don't know how. Don't say Easter, Christmas and a load of other words ... Don't give a friend an aspirin ... or face drug charges...

We have just about RULED our country to death! :soapbox1:

:gaah: ..... :rant: ..... :ignore:

 

Just plain and simple..........out of control government at all levels.

We must take our country back at the polls or liberty as we have known it is doomed.

 

And we're left with the illusion of a Republic! GB says we will be. I think we already are.

 

You've got to be kidding! That's ridiculous! I hope a lot of people rally behind this woman and her son. So are they saying that poor kids don't deserve better schools and a good education? Wow.

 

Couple of facts:

She could have registered for social services from a homeless shelter in the district and this wouldn't have even been a problem. It's trivially easy to do. I did it myself when I was homeless, and it enabled me to vote, apply for student loans, and yes, if I had kids, send them to school in the district. The fun thing about being homeless was I got to decide where I legally "resided" whether I was financially able to pay taxes there or not. Any social services I used, that area of residence was able to properly account for and in the case of programs coming down from state levels, could be reimbursed for.

If I hadn't bothered to fill out those simple forms, I would have been getting the benefits of services and the lack of reimbursement would have hurt everyone else who needs those services. It is not stealing from the government so much as it is stealing from everyone who is doing the right thing the right way.

Secondly, being homeless does not protect you from the law. My parents couldn't send me to whatever random school they felt like just because the one 30 minutes away had far better teachers than the one 10 minutes away. Where you reside determines where you go, because that's how tax dollars are handed out, collected and allocated. Not having a home does not and CAN not make you immune to simple laws. This is what equal protection means. Unless you're paying for a private school or homeschooling, you send kids to the school district you pay taxes in, serve on jury duty from, and so on.

When these cases come up, you're given ample warnings and reminders of the proper way of doing things. They're not going to punish the child for it ever, and they really do want kids to get an education so these things are allowed to go on quite a while before the district finally hires private investigators to prove the theft of services.

The only reason this mother is in in trouble is because she was too lazy to take even the most basic steps to ensure her child's education. Society didn't ask much of anything at all from this mother, simply to sign some papers and risk *gasp* jury duty, but she refused to even do that trivial task in exchange for the benefits society wanted to give to her child.

 

THANK YOU! for exposing this 'class warfare' FABRICATION for what it is... my anger gets the better of me when I see people (fellow forum members) whose intelligence & opinion I respect (trust me, it doesn't happen often) falling for these distraction tactics & I have to walk away from the comp before I post a scathing rebuke.

 

townparkradio ... I agree with most of what you said, and "TRUE" being homeless does not protect you from the law ...

But I think it is a waste of money for her to be in jail, put her before a judge fine but in jail? ... Hell, some guy around here with "THREE" DUI's didn't get that much jail time ... It was only when on his NEXT DUI ... (and when he killed two 16 year old girls walking home from school) Did they do something about him.

As for the 15,600 in taxpayer money ... that is pennies from what our gobbermint waste.

 

How much money is being spent to keep her in jail... I would like to know ...

I mean come on ...

 

"It's expensive to prosecute" means nothing. They don't go barreling right for criminal charges, they give repeated warnings for this. During the time her babysitter was fighting eviction she was warned ample times that she cannot lie about her place of residence to send her child to a place she does not reside in. Eventually the district attorney had to be notified when she refused to sign a piece of paper stating she was homeless, but in this nicer neighborhood where she had been sending the child. This woman instead chose to tell lie after lie, and despite overwhelming evidence against her, continued to defy the school district. These cases rarely HAVE to go to the police.

Your issues have nothing to do with the facts of this story. She only had to sign a piece of paper and this wouldn't happen. By not signing a piece of paper, her child was getting benefits without the people generously giving the child those benefits having any chance for reimbursement. Your statement about Chinese money was nonsense as well. This woman's family is absolutely taking government money, as most all poor folks have to simply to exist. Low income folks simply do not pay as much into the system as they're getting out of it, but that's just part of the things any decent society is willing to absorb. I think that Jesus guy has a lot to say on this subject that our society really does compassionately pay attention to.

All this society asks in return is that folks obey a few simple rules, and, as mentioned before, risk jury duty. This woman can't even decide what her defense is. Is her defense "other people do it too" or is her defense "but I'm homeless"? Nobody has ever forced her to pay restitution, at any point. Ever. None of the stories have stated this. She had two choices, do the paperwork and the jail time, or be faced with a civil suit seeking to recover the damages. The fact is she had ample warnings and refused to act on them.

This is nobody's fault but her own. This is not racist. This is not even the class issues that come into play when folks form poor neighborhoods send their children to school in better ones. This woman simply had to sign a piece of paper. Instead of doing so, she obstinately made claims which got her babysitter evicted and got herself eventually prosecuted.

To let her off is not fair to everyone doing it the right way, it would not be fair to the school district that was educating her child but not permitted to receive programs and relief entitled by that child living in their district. To let her off because prosecution would be expensive is STUNNINGLY wrong-headed. If there is not conviction at the end of this path of misbehavior, than folks would have no reason not to lie and make education vastly more expensive for everyone else in a district.

There are severe problems with how the educational system pays for itself and the resultant variation in school quality, but allowing people to actively make it worse does nothing to repair these issues.

 

Ten days in jail and the court resources to prosecute? About 900 dollars. Allowing her to continue her behavior? About $15,000 per year in lost budget.

 

So some schools spend $10,000 per year per student, and others are allowed to spend $15,000 per year per student? Why?

 

My thoughts exactly. Equal education for all children. Treat them like they deserve a good education regardless of their parents' income.

 

Ummm. That's a mighty slippery slope (Constitutional issues aside). Do you really want to give the ObaMaoites more control over your kids' education than they have already? IMHO, the individual States should control educational content, not the all-knowing Gods in DC.

 

Well, yes and no, on the equal $$$ for education. I think the school districts, or maybe the states, should be in charge of education and what's taught, NOT the federal government.

Equal $$$, that's a bit touchy. They could give equal money to each district, per student, but there isn't much equal right now in some areas such as teacher pay. Rural areas tend to pay less, and I suppose it might have something to do with less kids. However in many rural or lightly-populated areas they're bussed to consolidated schools and the "rural" classrooms are just as likely to have 30 or more per class. But the teachers are paid far less than urban teachers and have less classroom equipment and facilities than their urban counterparts.

I don't know what the fix is for that.

Also, the cost of living varies a lot by region, so should all teachers be paid the same?