PYRO PETE'S Improvised Camp Stoves...

[funkrider]

Is tree sap that terrible to inhale? It does burn nauseous black smoke that looks like plastic burning... That would be my fuel of choice, just scoop some in a bottle cap and get it going.

[JeepHammer]

Originally Posted by varmint_hunter

Gentlemen,

These are some great ideas if your trying to survive.

But please be aware of the chemical hazards of what you might be doing.

If you cook your food over burning gasoline, you're going to be ingesting complex hydrocarbons - the products of incomplete combustion. Not good for you.

Even more unhealthy would be the combustion products of the cans with the white liner - that's teflon. And burning teflon is death, maybe not now, maybe not next month, but that's a nasty one.

Even the soda cans are coated with a urethane substance, but that'll burn off pretty quick.

Sorry to be the wet blanket, but the teflon I saw on one of those cans was cause for concern on my part.

Actually, that's why I recommended a COVERED cooking pan...

If you figure the wind correctly, most of the smoke/toxins will find their own way away from your food.

Teflon is non reactive with the human body.
If it were a threat, then MILLIONS, maybe billions, would be dead from the Teflon lined 'Non-Stick' cooking pans that have been around for 40 or 50 years.

Teflon doesn't 'BURN', it melts, but the binders used to hold it on the pans can be toxic...

Most of the liners in cans, including pop cans, are a condensed food grade lacquer made from....
Corn or Soy bean oils...
Completely non toxic...
That's why they are 'Food Grade'. (DUH! )

Cooking or boiling in raw metal isn't in it's own right a bad thing, but you shouldn't STORE food in a raw metal container other than Food Grade Stainless Steel.

Cooking or boiling in metal that has a rust preventative in it is always a bad idea!
Some guys will use galvanized buckets to cook in, and the zinc/tin/lead combination used to 'Hot Dip' the buckets or tubs is toxic,
AND,
Acids/Alkaloids in foods will dissolve the toxic metals and suspend them in food,

SO NEVER USE A BUCKET OR TUB FOR FOOD PREPARATION OR STORAGE!
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After the first burn, the largest part of the zinc will be burned away, and it will be fine to use buckets/tubs for Stoves, but not to put food in.

[xj35s]

Okay, I tried the cotton balls/petroleum jelly. It would not light with a match. How's it start with a spark?

I have a small putt putt boat. It's like a micro steam boat. it uses a tea light candle for heat. I needed more heat as the boiler is too high for the tea light. I pulled the wax out of the tea light and put the cotton ball in there.

Is it possible I have too much jelly on the cotton? or is it too confined a space to get direct fire? I don't know. I had no trouble lighting the teal candle.

[Big B]

This is a little more HD, but works on small sticks for fuel, you could use it for years with only underbrush for fuel.
It is called a 'Jet Stove' and is made out of a 5 gal steel paint can or square can that cooking oil comes in (also 5 gal).
Look it up on You tube, there is a young guy all dressed in Black that has shoulder length hair that does a great training video.
This was designed by an engineer and was meant to be used in 3rd world countries, that are poor. it is a flawless design.
Try it........

[JeepHammer]

Originally Posted by xj35s

Okay, I tried the cotton balls/petroleum jelly. It would not light with a match. How's it start with a spark?

I have a small putt putt boat. It's like a micro steam boat. it uses a tea light candle for heat. I needed more heat as the boiler is too high for the tea light. I pulled the wax out of the tea light and put the cotton ball in there.

Is it possible I have too much jelly on the cotton? or is it too confined a space to get direct fire? I don't know. I had no trouble lighting the teal candle.

Don't completely hose down the cotton.
Cotton fibers without petroleum jelly will redly light with nothing more than sparks or magnifying glass.

If you hosed then entire cotton ball down (which I often do for the cotton that goes in the stove burner) then I put a clean, fresh cotton ball on the top before I put the lid on to ignite the rest.

If you don't have a clean cotton starter,
then pinch the petroleum jelly out of one of the cotton ball edges, and try a match there, it usually lights right away.

Stand it up like a 'Mohawk' on your fuel pile and light the 'sharpest' of the edge, it will light VERY easily then.

[JeepHammer]

Originally Posted by Big B

This is a little more HD, but works on small sticks for fuel, you could use it for years with only underbrush for fuel.
It is called a 'Jet Stove' and is made out of a 5 gal steel paint can or square can that cooking oil comes in (also 5 gal).
Look it up on You tube, there is a young guy all dressed in Black that has shoulder length hair that does a great training video.
This was designed by an engineer and was meant to be used in 3rd world countries, that are poor. it is a flawless design.
Try it........

Rocket Mass Heaters & Stoves have been around a lot longer than 'You Tube'...

Some go back to the middle east at the beginning of the bronze age!
This is the same principal used in bread & brick making ovens for centuries...

[JeepHammer]

Wonder Why this thread didn't get closed and a link to a Stove Building page inserted like so many other that have been deleted entirely or locked down?

Anyone got an answer?

[nrarifleman]

thats just regular candle wax, paraffin wax? And it lights and burns like that?

[JeepHammer]

Originally Posted by nrarifleman

thats just regular candle wax, paraffin wax? And it lights and burns like that?

Most of the larger 'White' candles that are unscented are Paraffin wax.

You can also buy 'GULF' brand Paraffin wax intended for home canning, candle making, ect. at about any place that carries home canning supplies.

Around here, that's everywhere form 'China-Mart' to grocery stores to farm equipment stores.

It's VERY cheap and is usually harder and doesn't have the perfumes and softeners in it like candles do.

[palooka slim]

Originally Posted by xj35s

If you're out back and run out of vaseline or other fuel, don't forget pine tree sap. You can usually find a glob oozing out of the bark. You can always just nick a few trees a day and keep collecting the sap.

I made torches in boy scouts this way. We double boiled the sap like you would parafin then soaked rags in it and wrapped them around sticks. Be carefull they drip!!

i want to try this,explain double boiled.thanks.