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Old 03-29-2013, 03:15 PM   #1
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We need a water well, got some prices. Just a 150ft water well these guys want 12,000 bucks. And the only guarantee is they will cash your check before the sun goes down. For 12k, seems like you could get at least the grarntee that you would have water. Seems like after these guys drill for 40 yrs, they would know if you have water or not. Anyway, I don't have 12k, we just bought our dream retreat 6 acres in the woods of east Texas.
I can do the septic, and drive way, but water well drilling, we must have. I did some checking and Drillcat.com has info on drilling rig rental. 650 per day.
I feel better about gambling with 650 bucks instead of 12k. Even if I get a loan, man I will be old before it paid for. The Rigs they offer for rent are larger trailer rigs, not the small toy hydra turds. In most states you can drill your own water well on your land or land you have leased. My brother needs a well, so he is going to lease me his land for 1$ for 30 days, then I can drill him a well, and be legal.
I will keep posted, we start this weekend.



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Your post sounds a lot like an advertisement.

Interesting website, though.

http://www.drillcat.com/



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You have 5 posts to your name... and every one of them mentions drillcat.

OK, here's where I get rubbed - why be sneaky about it? Why don't you just come out and say you work for drillcat? Would that be so hard to do?

There's no pain in being honest about it, and you can save yourself the time and trouble of coming up with some stupid story where you can make a plug for drillcat.

Lastly - "owned and operated by Missionary Alliance". Now, I am offended because I hate it when people make Christians look bad.

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Are you the same guy as this (drilleditmyself, Drillingfab, Rockbuster) ?

http://forums.homestead.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2208&KW=drilleditmyself

"It's kinda sad, really, because if the plans are for real and will help build a good rig on the cheap, the guy could have simply come here and said "Hey, folks, my name is __________ and I have some drilling rig plans that might be of use to you..." And, if he really has the 20 acres that were mentioned in some of the other posts, and if he really has driven/drilled three wells on that property and is knowledgeable about welding and is a DIY'er, he probably would fit right in here...

Just goes to show that, at the end of the day, you've GOT to be honest with people... "

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Bad reviews on the drillcat plans book:

http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Water-Drilling-Plans-Drillcat-com/product-reviews/159971342X

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I have my doubts that the average person could go rent a rig and get a successful well on the first try, and that's after they figure out how to make a hole in the ground without loosing something.... I seen a brand new rotary setup to drill an oil well, all new equipment, they had an experienced crew but even then they lost $12,000 worth of tooling down the hole that they never got out. They had to move the rig and start a new hole..... It's bad enough when things go wrong and you know what you're doing, but if you don't know what you're doing mistakes can be very expensive. Another thing, no driller can absolutely guarantee they will find water, even though 99.9% of the time it is there, at least it is in my area but you really don't know what lies beneath you feet until you bore a hole deep into the ground. The underground landscape doesn't always match what's on the surface. We do have some known areas where there is no water, and I stay away from those areas. Equipment cost money to maintain and operate, no one wants to pay for a dry hole, and neither do I.

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The underground landscape almost never matches what's on the surface.
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Yep... that guy is pretty sneaky about slipping spam into the forum. The well guys have the experience and the right tools and, for us, it just isn't worth the misery of trying to do something for which we had zero experience.


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For us, it just isn't worth the misery of trying to do something for which we had zero experience.
I can't deny someone wanting to buy a used Deep Rock drilling rig and practicing. It's all in knowledge of learning. Hopefully all you lost in the process is some time and maybe some pipe. You can then sell the rig to someone else so they can play with it and ruin some pipe for themselves.

$650 a day for a rented rig is a LOT of coin to be "practicing" with. For that price, I want someone from Drillcat at my house so they are there to fix problems instantly. They are only two hours away....

I also wonder if those trailer rigs can go through rock. Maybe they can... with enough time (and enough power). Start adding more $$$$. I see the new RockBuster R100 has a bigger diesel Kubota engine. I can see where a lack of power can get you into trouble.

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I have my doubts that the average person could go rent a rig and get a successful well on the first try.....no driller can absolutely guarantee they will find water, even though 99.9% of the time it is there.... you really don't know what lies beneath you feet until you bore a hole deep into the ground.

The drillcat manual describes using a modified post-hole digger as a base to build your own drilling rig. So I googled "post hole water well drilling rigs" and came up some neat links:

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/general-homesteading-forums/homesteading-questions/35339-drilling-my-own-well.html
"One potential problem that can pollute the water zone that you want to utilize. If your zone is at a depth of 100 feet and you Drilled thru another zone at say 50 feet ...and it is POOR Quality...You have to SEAL IT OFF with cement and pea gravel. Otherwise, the unwanted zone at 50 feet will gravity flow along the outside of the casing down to your good zone at 100 feet. This process is called "Communication"......and it is also the reason that MANY experienced well drillers screwup an otherwise good well that should produce good, potable, drinkable water.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/138184-portable-water-well-drilling-rig.html
"BTW, I already have a hydraulic auger drive unit that I use to drill fence posts, so I have been seriously toying with the idea of building a water well drill rig that will allow me to use the auger drive unit and my tractor hydraulics. Until I find a swivel, however, that is strong/big enough to do the job, and that I can afford, the project is dead in the water (no pun intended)."

http://www.motherearthnews.com/do-it-yourself/how-to-dig-a-well-zmaz70jazgoe.aspx#axzz2PPXvxK8E

http://www.hydra-jett.com/

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?30234-Water-well-drilling-with-a-skid-steer
"I just finished drilling 1 99 foot hole 6.5 inches deep, at 59 feet on the second. I am using a post hole digger attachment with a home made swivel and a rotary bit off ebay(less than 100 bucks). I got lucky with the drill stem, there is a directional borer who had about 150 foot of old drill pipe they did not use anymore and gave it to me. Not so much the power of the machine but the power of the pump used to circulate the flushings. You will need to use bentonite quick gel, you can get from a well driller for about 10 bucks a bag
also depends on what you are drilling through, clay, sand, rock

http://www.wellspringafrica.org/drildesc.htm

http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=36335.0
"Last summer a friend and I successfully drilled a water well using a post hole auger driven off the PTO of his tractor. I mentioned it here and apparently there is some interest in doing the same, so here goes. Unfortunately I didn't take any pics. This will be a series of posts, too much typing for just one."

Cement mixer water well driller:
http://www.lostcreek.net/drillyourownwaterwell.html

Wow.... lots of info. Check the additional links section as well..
http://www.drillyourownwell.com/

Pretty much a "Deep Rock" copy (lawnmower engine):
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/drill.html


I would NOT try this method, unless the soil is sandy and the water table very high: http://howtodrillawell.com/


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