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Old 10-16-2011, 02:13 PM   #51
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What do the Wall street protesters and Conservatives agree on ?

1. That the banks and big business should not have been bailed out!

2. That the money they spent on education was wasted !

What are the areas of disagreement?

1. That they should have gotten the money instead ?

2. That the government should give them a free , worthless education?

My solution to the Wall street protest would be to spray them all with a detergent mixture to remove the oil from their drawers and hair, just before the first freezing weather.

It worked to reduce the Starling population !



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Old 10-16-2011, 09:47 PM   #52
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right now I am one of those 50%ers. dh lost his job after a heart attack. the company had not paid insurance ( so we have no health ins.). he is trying to go back to work, but mean while he helps out at our volunteer fire dept. as a paramedic. we use the health care system to try and keep him in his meds we can't otherwise afford. I can't work due to a disability. we saved for over 30 years for retirement but how are going thru that to live on. we have paid into the system all those years and never ask for help. Now they say because the last 5 years were with the state dh is not going to get any disability help. they told him to go find a job and work 5 years and then maybe he would get something. he has been looking but because of the heart attack no one wants to hire him ( he's been looking for almost 5 months now). we owe over 200,000.00 for what happened now we are broke and can not even get food stamps because they use last years 1040.
I don't mean to sound like a total curmudgeon here and this is not to be intended as a personal attack upon this person; However, when I read about someone who claims they can't work due to a disability- yet can type in complete sentences and convey a cohesive thought process on a forum site- it draws my ire and find it impossible to sit on my hands. There is absolutely, positively nothing a person of this sort can do for income? Nothing at ALL? Like on the computer? Starting a at home/cottage business (working your own hours when you felt capable)? $200 K in debt, and still (I'm speculating) can afford a computer and internet access? I have a neighbor who was a policeman a few years ago, until he went on disability because of a bad back. It's nice to know his disability doesn't prevent him from driving his truck with a fishing boat behind it 16 hours to TX to go fishing twice a year. It's stories like this I wish the system would collapse, you'd be surprised how quickly some would recover from their disability enough to be productive.


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Old 10-16-2011, 09:50 PM   #53
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The Wall-Street protesters are ignorant anti-capitalists who want everything for free. They've been indoctrinated into thinking all corporations are evil and anybody who has money is evil. A lot of other people have joined them because all they want to do is get drunk, get high, get laid, and then act like they changed the world. They're a joke.

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From Michelle Malkin

Unlike Tea Party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and trespassing on private property under the guise of “social justice,” but in plain service of themselves.
Their t-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara, Emiliano Zapata, and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted Death Row cop killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They condemn “Nazi Bankers,” Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative
Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family, and the New York Police Department (“pigs!”). They promote the illegal alien DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: “F**k banks.” “Unf**k the world.” “Fuuuuu*k.” “Free education.” “Smash nationalism.”
“People not profits.”
They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly for “violent revolution” or for Obama to “Send Seal Team 6” to Wall Street.
Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy, uniform chant they call the “human microphone”) that we just haven’t taken the time to understand what they’re all about — as they hawk $20 “Eat the Rich” polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)

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The media isn't covering the anti-semitism at the Occupy events around the country.

The PJ Tatler » More Anti-Semitism at Occupy Los Angeles

There's a lot there to check out.

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Ah, maybe the cities go bankrupt from the costs piling up? I would find that funny.

It would teach the PTB a lesson if the gubt (generally) goes broke not because of its shady/illicit dealings with the world (wars and empire/nation building specifically) but because it cannot satisfy its own citizenry, right or wrong and keep them complacent.

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Old 10-17-2011, 02:22 AM   #57
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Would you please address for the rest of us what "opinions" were used as "facts"?

Warren Buffet is an ass! Now, that is my opinion. Someone who is awash in billions of dollars saying that he isn't taxed enough. All 'ol Warren has to do is check the box and send his money in to the IRS. Show the other filthy rich how its done, Warren. Put your money where your mouth is. The House is working on a bill that will make it even easier for Mr. Stuffet, er, Buffet.
Just go back and re-read the posts. Anything that doesn't have "I think, I believe, or in my opinion" is expressed as a fact(s), IMO.
There sure is a lot of them.....

I think it's funny in a sad sort of way that as soon as Warren Buffet backed the President, he has been attacked mercilessly.

I'll say it maybe loud enough for Rush, Sean, Glenn, and Sarah to hear too:
Go Mr. Buffet. You have all my respect!!!
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Just go back and re-read the posts. Anything that doesn't have "I think, I believe, or in my opinion" is expressed as a fact(s), IMO.
There sure is a lot of them.....

I think it's funny in a sad sort of way that as soon as Warren Buffet backed the President, he has been attacked mercilessly.

I'll say it maybe loud enough for Rush, Sean, Glenn, and Sarah to hear too:
Go Mr. Buffet. You have all my respect!!!
No, YOU go read all of the previous posts. Basically, put up or shut up. YOU make the assertion regarding "facts" vs "opinion".

No one attacked Buffet for siding with the fraudulent marxist in the WH. Buffet was called out after his unbelievably stupid comment about not paying enough taxes. Now the House is passing a bill that would make it a lot easier for people like Buffet, and people who LIKE Buffet to sign that increased amount on the check and send it in to the IRS like good little socialists.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:30 AM   #59
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I don't mean to sound like a total curmudgeon here and this is not to be intended as a personal attack upon this person; However, when I read about someone who claims they can't work due to a disability- yet can type in complete sentences and convey a cohesive thought process on a forum site- it draws my ire and find it impossible to sit on my hands. There is absolutely, positively nothing a person of this sort can do for income? Nothing at ALL? Like on the computer? Starting a at home/cottage business (working your own hours when you felt capable)? $200 K in debt, and still (I'm speculating) can afford a computer and internet access? I have a neighbor who was a policeman a few years ago, until he went on disability because of a bad back. It's nice to know his disability doesn't prevent him from driving his truck with a fishing boat behind it 16 hours to TX to go fishing twice a year. It's stories like this I wish the system would collapse, you'd be surprised how quickly some would recover from their disability enough to be productive.
Like you I cannot sit on my hands after reading your post. Now I know what you said, about the personal attack and I said ok. Then I read the rest of your post.

Don't you think that just maybe you could have said something like, have you ever thought about..... or maybe you could do something like... instead of basically saying that they just don't want to work and implying that they are trying to get on welfare so they don't have to work. I realize that you didn't come right out and say that, but it is what you implied.

Good Lord don't you think that a family can fall on hard times through no fault of their own and honestly deserve the help that they had never asked for before and had been paying for all of their working lives.

I didn't read anything about the brood mares, druggies, or any of the untold number of people actually abusing/milking the system.
I didn't read anything about those of us that think that that our tax dollars should go to folks that have fallen on bad time and are at least trying to pull themselve's up.

Basically what I read in your post was a personal attack on their character and I certainly don't believe this is the forum for such attacks.

You can lambast me all you want and it will roll off me like water on a duck's back, because I will just consider the source.

If this rebuttal to your post sounds harsh or you think that I am getting on your case you would be correct.

I don't think that I need say anymore other than if you want to start "crap" please take it somewhere else.
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Folks I am aware of what I have said in the past about starting pi$$ing contests and I honestly am not trying to start one now, it's just that I felt like that post should not go unanswered and because it really frosted my shorts.




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