[lexsurivor]

Originally Posted by dahur

Some things I've got in mine, that I didn't see in yours:

Boxes of wooden matches in plastic baggies. 3 or 4 MRE's. T-paper.

hand cranked radio. hand cranked flashlight. small spade. pencil sharpener.
Fishing line, bait in the jar, sinkers, bobber or two, hooks.

Your mosquito net is great idea, I'm adding that to mine.

I have 3 boxes of matches. And I have a tackle box that will strap on.
Good Idea about the flash light, radio and spade. Im putting the spade in now.



Also today I got a new pack thats much more comfortable and also much bigger. It was the outdoor $35.00 one at wal-mart.
I also bought a walmart machete (it was cheap but I tested it out and it works well) and added 10 cliff bars, 4 cans of vienna sausage, and a can of canned chicken. The weight right now is 45lbs and walking up 16 stairs 10 times wore me out. But walking on hills and flat ground is pretty easy.

[BillS]

I'd have some trail mix and/or some 6 oz cans of Diamond almonds. One ounce has 170 calories so one can has 1020 calories.

[Jimmy24]

Originally Posted by lexsurivor

Heres some pics of my BOB. Feel free to critique any and all advice wanted.is this a 72 hr BOB?
Also if you want to post a picture of your BOB.

Note: The air rifle, blow gun,Bow, and slingshot would be divided between 4 people. Also the empty can is to cook food over a fire.
Not pictured: Blow gun darts ,Clothes, and a fishing rod that breaks down into 1' long pieces. And my everyday carry knives. (3)

Items list
8 bottles of water
camel back with cover
clear refillable water bottle leave it at home, save the bottles for water.
cotton balls (firestarting)
paper towels(firestarting)
Clorox wipes and germex in a bag
ponchos
deoderant not needed
shampoo (hotel kind)not needed
body wash (hotel kind)bar of antibac deodorant soap
hand sanitizer
neosporin
facewipes
bandanna
multitool
watch
watch batteriesnot needed
swiss army type knife
1 disposable lighter 3 lighters
1 refill able lighternot needed
magnesium fire starter
4 rolls of steel wool
2 9 volt batterys
2 bottles of super glue
Led light
knife sharpener
waterproof bag
water purifyer
chafer fuel can
empty can for cooking
3 small jif singlesleave at home
1 jar of jif 18 oz?
2 bags of beef jerky
3 cups of apple sauce
2 cans of vienna sausage sardines better, more fat and caloires
6 water flavorers with protein and electrolytes
3 fruit roll ups not needed
12 oz honey
tuna
2 cliff bars
1 fiber bar leave em, ya got cliff bars
3 granola barsleave em, ya got cliff bars
2 small candles not needed
shoe goonot needed, ya got super glue
2 compasses 1 with built in thermometer
spanish to english dictionary
mosquito net
grass net (the type you put over new grass seeds) (it makes a great fishing net)
shower curtain(water collection)
map of U.S.A
E-tape
50 feet of para cord 100 ft minimum
some nylon cord
2 bungee cords not needed
hoodie stringnot needed
small tarp just need large one
large tarp
garbage bags one or two is plenty
2 decks of playing cards
space blanket
William Johnstone Book
composition notebook
pens and pencils
2500 bbs

2nd picture
pump air rifle
2500 bbs
300 pellets
blowgun
bow
arrows
slingshot
ball barrings for slingshot

This is my BOB. My mom, brother, and dad have theirs.
It weighs only 55lbs.

If you are young and a bull 55 lbs is fine, but I'll tell you that hoofing 55 lbs will wear your butt out. You would use up way too many caloires.

My BOB is 23# including plenty of food for 72-96 hrs, tools, fire starting, cover from elements, ammo, FAK and small fishing kit. Mine is also a shoulder bag, so I can aquire "stuff" while on the move.

Take yours out for a weekend hike and then make adjustments. I promise you will.

Have fun working on it.

Jimmy

[lexsurivor]

Im going hiking with it this saturday and the scale was wrong its actually 45lbs. Also the refillable lighter is the size of a disposable but holds twice the amount of butane. Also I have a small can of butane that weighs close to nothing and has enough to refill it about 15 times.
And thanks for the tips. Im going to have to order some more paracord.

[Jimmy24]

Thought I'd make some suggestions on your food, tools, equipment, shelter and FAK.

Of course you may not care for these food items, but they will hold you and give you the required calories. This will hold you for 72-96 hrs.

This is for one person:
FOOD
2-12 oz bottles of honey
1-18 oz jar of peanut butter
3-tins of sardines
3-4 oz pacs of jerky
3-mini rolls of crackers
6-tubes/straws of flavoring for water
1-small jar of freeze dried coffee (if you like coffee, if not tea? nice to have to chill get going in the morning)
water filter
8 oz SS heavy cup
Crackers, tea, PB and jerky only thing you have to rotate out ever so often.

TOOLS
multitool, i.e.: Leatherman type tool.
Razor blade knife.
Pocket knife.
Fixed blade knife 4-6 inch blade.

EQUITMENT/SHELTER
1 pt water bottle
50 ft 3/8 nylon rope
100 ft paracord
4-5 carabineers
LED headlight (leaves your hands free, BIG deal I promise)
LED flashlight 100 Lumens minimum
Small handful of wire ties, 6in minimum length
8X10 Tarp
Micro fishing kit. 6 or so hooks, 6 or so split shot, 30' of 10# test mono rolled up
3 Bic lighters
Magnesium and flint

FAK
Neosporin
selection of band aids
small bottle 50 ibuprofen
15-Alchaol pads
2-LARGE pads
4-benadryl
Tube of TUMS
Large sewing needle (picking out splinters)
Tweezers
WATERPROOF container for it all

Good Bag such as this,
Bail Out Bag | Tactical Bags & Backpacks | 5.11 Tactical

Along with the "stuff" above, I carry 450 rounds of 22 ammo and a Cold Steel 18" machete, in and on the bag (carabineers).

Weights about 23-25#. But remember that it will lose about 3.5# as you eat up your food, so the pack gets lighter.

Ok to carry some water if you want to, as you will drink it up in a hurry when you are under stress. The weight will go away fairly quickly. But only say, 6- 10oz bottles.

I have toted this combo several times and got by just fine for 4 days. was I hungry, yep you bet, but not starving nor weak. I would not take a bow, too much cumbersome...pellet rifle not too bad, but if you got to carry something, carry a real gun, (22). It can do a lot for you and 450 rounds will be more than enough. I actually have slingshot too.

Just my .02 cents worth.

Jimmy`

[lexsurivor]

Originally Posted by Jimmy24

Thought I'd make some suggestions on your food, tools, equipment, shelter and FAK.

Of course you may not care for these food items, but they will hold you and give you the required calories. This will hold you for 72-96 hrs.

This is for one person:
FOOD
2-12 oz bottles of honey I need to get
1-18 oz jar of peanut butterHave
3-tins of sardinesAbsolutley hate sardines
3-4 oz pacs of jerkyHave 2 but I need to add another
3-mini rolls of crackersI need to get
6-tubes/straws of flavoring for waterI have 7 protein mixes for water that are the size of a straw
1-small jar of freeze dried coffee (if you like coffee, if not tea? nice to have to chill get going in the morning)I dont like most coffee but i will add the tea. Good Idea
water filterI have purriyer
8 oz SS heavy cupCan I ask what this is?
Crackers, tea, PB and jerky only thing you have to rotate out ever so often.

TOOLS
multitool, i.e.: Leatherman type tool.Have
Razor blade knife. Need
Pocket knife.Have
Fixed blade knife 4-6 inch blade.Need

EQUITMENT/SHELTER
1 pt water bottle
50 ft 3/8 nylon rope
100 ft paracord I need 50 more feet.
4-5 carabineersI bought some for a good price at sportsmans warehouse
LED headlight (leaves your hands free, BIG deal I promise)I have on I just need to find it
LED flashlight 100 Lumens minimumHave
Small handful of wire ties, 6in minimum lengthWould zip ties work?
8X10 TarpHave
Micro fishing kit. 6 or so hooks, 6 or so split shot, 30' of 10# test mono rolled upIm going to make this tommorow. Im thinking of putting it in a pill container. Would that work well?
3 Bic lightersHave
Magnesium and flintHave

FAK
NeosporinHave
selection of band aidsNeed
small bottle 50 ibuprofenNeed
15-Alchaol padsCould I find these at walmart
2-LARGE pads?
4-benadryl
Tube of TUMSNeed
Large sewing needle (picking out splinters)Need
TweezersNeed
WATERPROOF container for it allHave

Good Bag such as this,
Bail Out Bag | Tactical Bags & Backpacks | 5.11 Tactical

Along with the "stuff" above, I carry 450 rounds of 22 ammo and a Cold Steel 18" machete, in and on the bag (carabineers).

Weights about 23-25#. But remember that it will lose about 3.5# as you eat up your food, so the pack gets lighter.

Ok to carry some water if you want to, as you will drink it up in a hurry when you are under stress. The weight will go away fairly quickly. But only say, 6- 10oz bottles.

I have toted this combo several times and got by just fine for 4 days. was I hungry, yep you bet, but not starving nor weak. I would not take a bow, too much cumbersome...pellet rifle not too bad, but if you got to carry something, carry a real gun, (22). It can do a lot for you and 450 rounds will be more than enough. I actually have slingshot too.

Just my .02 cents worth.

Jimmy`

Thanks for all the great advice.

[Jimmy24]

Originally Posted by lexsurivor

Thanks for all the great advice.

Your more than welcome. When I started fooling with these things 30-35 yrs ago, there was no internet/forum with all the great info from so many folks. In fact there wasn't a name for them...

Remember one thing. Though it's actually great fun setting up these things, I take 'em dead serious. If god forbid I have to be in that sort of situation, I want something that is not adding to my stress level, but actually helps calm me down. Having a simple, but complete bag will be my life saver.

I started out with an alice backpack. 61#!!!! That lasted one trip. Over the next few years I weeded it down to 33#. Was much more manageable, until I fell in a deep creek one weekend. I damn near drowned. Backpacks are a bugger to get off when your in water over your head. Backpack went away and went thru all sorts of carrying bags. I settled on the 5.11.

As far as my suggestions go they are just what I found works very well for me.
*No problem about sardines, how about Tuna or Salmon? Canned fish has much better proteins and fats than other canned meat. I love those vienna sausages but they don't hack it for me during long hikes.
*That is a 8 oz Stainless Steel cup for cooking and drinking.
*Zip ties and wire ties same thing.
*Pill bottle fine for micro fishing kit.
*Alcohol pads usually come in packs of 100 at WM or other places, they are real cheap
* Large pads. Sorry forgot to be complete. Maxi pads. Soak up blood better than anything. In case of a bad wound.

Hope that helps. Have fun!! Take it out as often as you can. Practice makes life easier down the road....

Jimmy

[XR750]

You need to dump all canned food and replace them food in pouches and plastic containers to save e weight.
XR750

[lexsurivor]

Good idea! And welcome to the forum

[Jimmy24]

Do remember that cans only weigh a few oz and they can be used after being emptied as water and cooking containers.

But most importantly, they have longer dates and don't punture near as easily as pouches. Been there done that and had no food and a nasty BOB....

Jimmy